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Bill O'Reilly answers Jon Stewart
Yesterday, Jon Stewart and The Daily Show had a little fun with FOX News, saying the way that they're covering the town hall protests makes them sound like liberals. Well, last night, Bill O'Reilly turned the tables on Stewart and gave him a little bit of his own medicine. You decide who's being more fair and balanced.















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8-21-2009 @ 6:08PM
MosquitoControl said...
You know, that was a decent segment.
He gave Jon Stewart some respect, presented it well, and came off as reasonable and rational.
Not entirely a rarity for O'Reilly, but never what gets shown.
In other words, this was less fun than I'd hoped.
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8-21-2009 @ 7:45PM
0megapart!cle said...
It was decent for O'Reilly and Fox News, not decent in any way people would normally define "decency". He made little sense and pretended, like he always does, that he is somehow better than Stewart, better that a "satirist", and somehow in any way resembling a newsman.
Even in these distorted and misrepresented clips of Stewart, O'Reilly seems like the lying clown compared to Stewart's honesty and integrity.
8-21-2009 @ 6:24PM
robert said...
i don't think his counterpoints took anything away from what Stewart said. I think he just had an easy way to kill a few minutes at the end of his own show.
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8-21-2009 @ 6:34PM
WIL said...
I agree with Robert. The first thing that came to mind was the fact that O'Reily acknowledged Stewarts segment. Some how it feels like the acknowledgement by O' Reily gives more importance to Stewarts ironic social commentary.
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8-21-2009 @ 7:19PM
Wii60 said...
It was a good segment about context in general, not only the context of the commentary in 15-second clips, but also the context of where Comedy really is in social commentary. It can be very effective and even educational, but by its very nature, is often skewed.
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8-21-2009 @ 7:49PM
0megapart!cle said...
Comedy, especially political satire, is meant to be skewed. But the Factor isn't supposed to be comedy, is it? What gives the Factor, and the rest of Fox News' line up that is usually far worse, the excuse to twist and manipulate the facts like they do, and pretend they are being: "fair and balanced". The Daily Show doesn't try to be fair and balanced, and would in fact fail at its primary purpose if it did, but nevertheless, is far more fair and balanced in its criticism and lampoonery than Fox News will ever be.
8-21-2009 @ 8:02PM
Wii60 said...
@omega
Except the O'Reilly factor isn't reporting news, it doesn't pretend to. It's commentary just the same as the Daily Show. They're both very biased. The Daily Show skews liberal and the O'Reilly Factor skews to whatever the frick O'Reilly is. In the case of the Factor, they are targeting a different audience and don't rely on comedy to make a point. It's a more professional way of doing it, and they aren't going for laughs.
All O'Reilly did was make a point, and in this case, he made a good one. Don't try and compare the two, something about Apples and Oranges springs to mind.
8-21-2009 @ 7:26PM
royce said...
Yeah, watching I just kept thinking... exactly what is he rebutting? It didn't change the overall point of what Stewart was saying. Playing longer clips of what Stewart showed didn't change the context at all.
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8-21-2009 @ 7:28PM
Xyz said...
Of course he waits until Stewart is on vacation for three weeks to do this...
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8-22-2009 @ 9:41PM
LC said...
I really don't watch either, but what are you talking about? Stewart aired his piece on one night and O'Reily rebutted the next night. At least that is what I gathered here on TV Squad, so how was O'Reilly waiting for Stewart to go on vacation? Should he have waited three weeks to air a rebuttal, when it is old news?
I mean someone else can skew it that Stewart dropped this bomb just before his vacation to avoid the rebuttal.
I believe neither scenario and believe it developed the way it did naturally.
8-22-2009 @ 10:08PM
Xyz said...
So... of all the times Stewart has called O'Reilly on his hypocrisy (and there have been many...) O'Reilly just happened to wait until now to respond? I'm not buying it, sorry. It just comes off as a cheap shot when Stewart isn't around to reply.
8-23-2009 @ 3:37AM
LC said...
I'm not saying that. I'm saying that he was responding to this specific incident the day after it happened. He may not have responded to prior incidents of hypocrisy because they may have either been true or he felt it wasn't worth responding to, but that is neither here or there, because he hasn't waited for Stewart to go on vacation to rebut on the past now has he? So why do it now?
Now if he responded to Stewarts piece late next week, I think you would have a case.
8-21-2009 @ 8:10PM
Kching said...
What a pussy, waiting for Stewart's break because he knows that Jon would have wiped the floor with him. Not the mention the fact that he didn't rebutt ANYTHING, he actualy DID call the protestors loons, and the other clip didn't do him much good either in my opinion (and even if it did, OReilly didn't show a third of the clips that Stewart showed of the "crybaby fox dudes", they were all legit).
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8-21-2009 @ 8:31PM
jim said...
This is exactly what O'reilly said: "...more than a thousand [protesters] have been arrested, and surveys show many protesters are simply loons." So no, he wasn't innocently calling only the arrested protesters loons, as he claims after the clip; he was claiming that SURVEYS showed that many of the protesters are loons. Surveys? Muh fuh please. To be completely fair, he himself never claimed them to be loons. But still. What a goofy goof. Very sneaky. Par for the course, 'murika.
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8-27-2009 @ 7:37PM
carrie said...
I love how smug he gets when he explains that he was calling the 'arrested' protesters loons. As if it's common knowledge that anyone that's ever been arrested is certifiably crazy. He completely ignores the fact that he said 'surveys' supposedly say this and the fact that two sentences didn't really seem to be connected.
It's hilarious that he thinks Stewart is catering to his 45% liberal audience. If that isn't projecting, I don't know what is.
8-21-2009 @ 8:39PM
bruce said...
Hey bill, if you're going to act like someone was taken out of context and play a few more seconds of a soundbite to show what was "really said", the extra part you play has to actually change the meaning of what was originally shown.
Of course no fox news viewer is smart enough to know that.
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8-21-2009 @ 8:42PM
bruce said...
Also, everyone knows Fox News uses the "surveys show" weasel words to add commentary that makes it sound like it's coming from other people rather than the commentator. What surveys? They did a survey about "loons"? Of course not.
Watch the documentary "Outfoxed" to learn all about Fox News' sneaky little tactings such as the "surveys show" or "people say" crap. Instead of O'Reilly saying Jon Stewart is a jerkoff, he'll say "people say" or "surveys show" that jon Stewart is a jerkoff.
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8-22-2009 @ 10:07AM
lauch said...
Both shows take their segments out of context. They do that in order to skew it toward their point....hence..the entertainment factor. I love that O'Reily tries to make it seem like he's a serious journalist.
"I like Jon Stewart, but some young people actually believe Jon is telling the truth on his program" - hmm, I'd say the same about O'Reily's show....many fans think he's word is the only word.
BTW - only way to be fair and balanced is to listen to all of them, do some research, and come to your own conclusion.
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8-23-2009 @ 5:03AM
bruce said...
Jon Stewart's program is FAR more accurate than O'Reilly's. O'Reilly's show is nothing but right-wing propaganda. Plus, Bill O has proven himself to be incredibly dumb over and over again. For example, when a viewer mail said that Canada has a higher life expectancy than America, O'Reilly responded by saying "America has ten times as many people than Canada, and thus ten times as much crime and ten times as many deaths." Even someone who failed first-grade math wouldn't be stupid enough to make such a ridiculous statement.
On a related note, it's gotten to the point where the right-wing has forgotten what context/out of context actually means. Their definition has been reduced, in essence, to: anytime someone takes a clip of a Republican saying something that sounds funny or stupid, it's "taken out of context." Their "proof" of this is, as O'Reilly did, playing the sentences before and after the funny/dumb statement. Since the part before and after are not funny/dumb, they really think that means the original part was therefore taken out of context. Of course that's not how it works. But, when your whole entire ideology is based on stupidity and misinformation, what else can ya do?
8-22-2009 @ 6:51PM
YouFaceTheTick said...
So O'Reilly thinks it's okay to call people loons in his "news"?
O'Reilly, host of Inside Edition (tabloid), exposed prevaricator (Peabody flap) and infamous sexual harasser, would be tolerable if he admitted his show is exactly what it is: entertainment. Like Stern, Limbaugh, Oprah and Stewart, he is a monkey dancing for our amusement. Keep it to that level. What O'Reilly says should carry as little weight as anything said by Stewart or Jon Voight or Hannity - they're entertainers. Nothing more.
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