You just knew that the perfect storm of tabloid stories, very effective ads and promos, and a holiday where nothing else was on was going to make for boffo ratings for the Jon & Kate Plus 8 season premiere. But the numbers are staggering by almost any standard: 9.8 million people viewed the train wreck on Monday night, surpassing the numbers for any network -- broadcast or cable -- that night and doubling TLC's previous high water mark. What was that mark? The season four finale of Jon & Kate, of course.I can't cast any aspersions on the size of the audience, because I gladly flipped on TLC to see the 73 minutes of extreme discomfort. And, boy, did I hate myself for doing it.
I've watched J&K on and off since just about the beginning, so it's not like I'm parachuting in and passing judgment on the two after just watching Monday's premiere. I knew about their history, about Kate's penchant for treating Jon like a child, Jon's "what did I get myself into?" face, etc. But through all that, it was their day-to-day with their kids that usually carried the show.
This one felt different, and not in a good way. The show became less about bringing up eight kids, including sextuplets, and it became about Jon and Kate dealing with the fame they courted themselves. And now it seems that we're going to be spending the season watching them go on their adventures individually, taking chunks of the kids with them instead of the entire brood. Heck, even the reruns of the old episodes that TLC aired prior to Monday's premiere seemed too sad to watch given the circumstances surrounding the couple.
I get the feeling a lot of the people who watched the show Monday night -- whether they were fans or just there to gawk -- felt the same way. So, I hope TLC enjoys their day in the sun, because those numbers are going to go down in a hurry.















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
5-27-2009 @ 11:36AM
Sancty said...
I couldn't agree more with your synopsis... it felt like one of those awkward moments where a couple fights and you just want to leave!
Kate's constant double-talk drove me crazy all night
- using the word Paparazzi in front of the kids and then yelling at them for using it was asinine.
- Kate pretending that John wasn't there when he first showed up at the party was immature - until she then ordered him to mop up the mess - just weak!
- Kate's statement that the Paparazzi should just follow some other mom was ludicrous - the other moms haven't turned their family life into an international circus, deal with the negative sides of fame as well!
I totally felt for John as his life seems to be dominated by the baby-love microcosm that usually only appears on facebook!
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5-27-2009 @ 1:03PM
Jimmy said...
I feel no sympathy for this family. No one forced them to raise their children on television. If they truly wanted to save their marriage, if they truly cared about their children, they step out of spotlight and just go away.
I'm sure the producers pick the worst moments, but even those worst moments can tell you about a person. Those moments tell me Kate is domineering shrew. I shudder to think of the example she's setting for her children, especially her daughters.
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5-27-2009 @ 1:08PM
Natrino said...
I think the fact that she kept referring to the book tour as "her job" was annoying me the most. Their marriage is falling apart due to her being away, and she makes excuses for it like she's doing something important. I would think her more important job is helping to take care of her kids, and I'm not saying that in any sexist way.
It seems to me that she is loving the fame, which she used to hate, and I think that she partly enjoys the paparazzi. She was even dressing differently in this episode than in the earlier ones. And after watching some of the episodes that were on earlier in the day, you can definitely see a difference in her attitude. She seems to be acting like a "star" now.
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5-27-2009 @ 3:11PM
jim said...
Why is it that everyone is so against Kate? True she talks bad to John, but maybe he needs that. Did anyone see how he never hugged two of the kids when he drove up and got out of his fancy car. Those two kids ran up to him and tried to hug him and he ignored them. Guess that was Kate's fault huh?!? Also in one of the earlier episodes he let her have it cause she left Collin with him.
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5-27-2009 @ 3:18PM
jo jo said...
I have watched J&K from the very first episode and always enjoyed the show even with Kate's bossy attitude I feel that some marriages are just like that (even though I don't agree on talking down to your spouse). I was so depressed after the show aired this week, it left me feeling sad. I may not watch the show anymore if it's going to continue with them being distant from one another, it just won't be the same. I feel they should work on their marriage and leave the show. the kids deserve better than that. I think J&K will be loosing alot of viewers this season. The show is Jon and Kate plus eight, they need to all be together in a loving and caring family setting. Kate does not owe her so called fans anything. working on their marriage and taking care of the children should come first, not a TV show.
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5-27-2009 @ 3:16PM
Pat G said...
I see this for what it is. You can't have 41 episodes in one season and not draw public interest. I guess they didn't figure that in when they were cashing those checks. It's been reported (People) that they can be making as much as $50K an episode. I was choked up when Sunday's premier showed one of the little girls telling Jon not to go away ever again, and it made me sick to think that this was put into that episode to do just that. I have been married for 30 years, only two kids but we have had a rough patch or two. For such religious people, Kate should cancel a trip or two, get off her "darn horse" and work on fixing the monster she helped create. We talked to a religious counselor and alos went to therapy to help understand each other and our different problems. I realize it takes alot of money to raise that many kids and they need the proceeds from "Her Work"...but it is their life, and they need to work on it together. Shame on you TLC for exploiting those little babies. Kate define your priorities and quit whining. We have all endured such trials, and done it without the gobs of $$. Consider yourself blessed and remember the children. THEY are what really counts.
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5-27-2009 @ 3:22PM
liz said...
How easy it is to talk about people when we have not walked in their shoes! First, from alot of these comments all I hear is Jealousy, and just plain maliciousness! Kate is taking care of business. She is not asking for handouts for her children. She looks good, so that pisses those of you off, that wish you could look like her. It is hard trying to raise a family and keep a marriage after ten years from going sour in any relationship, so why would it be anything different with other stresses thrown into the mix. It is said ,if you don't have anything positive to say then you need to keep your unwanted comments to yourself. I wish the family all the best, and hopefully they will make the best decisions for their family!
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5-27-2009 @ 4:43PM
eugene said...
Actually, before they were famous Kate's dad was taking donations for the kids and people were donating used clothes, appliances, etc. She turned those gifts away, re-donated them and asked for cash or new items only. Her dad refused saying he couldn't ask people to do that.
Because of that, she stopped speaking to her own parents.
So in fact, YES, she is asking for handouts. But only shiny new handouts, because she's special. Not every parent can sell out her own marriage and kids on the alter of wealth and fame, you know.
5-27-2009 @ 4:57PM
Natrino said...
Taking care of business?
A book tour?
Really?
5-27-2009 @ 4:13PM
been there done that said...
Any marriage counselor, including all who have discussed this on TV, will tell you that to save this family the Gosslins will have to stop the show. You can tell Jon wants this desperately, but Kate will not give up her celebrity, obviously. I loved how Jon said he was there for the kids - which is obvious; he's the house dad - and Kate is there for them "when I'm not gone, working and traveling".
Poor woman, she really thinks she is a star, a talent, a celebrity. She doesn't get it that the public will honestly forget her in 15 minutes. The public really, truly doesn't care about Kate Gosslin herself. We all tuned in to this episode out of media created curiousity, like watching a 200 lap car race for the potential crash.
However, if we, the public do care about those kids,which is the reason we started watching in the first place, we should be happy to give up this show and let them return to normal. Of course we have to stop watching, gulp, and ignore the producers who will continue to entice us with scandal and unhappiness.
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5-27-2009 @ 4:22PM
Nicole said...
I'm surprised so many people want to have it out w/ Kate. I know she's bossy often treats Jon like a 4yr old, but I've been watching this show since it started and Jon acts likes a 4 yr old. He's always just standing around looking confused waiting for someone to tell him what to do. Also whether or not Jon cheated, I think, is totally besides the point, what 35 yr old dad goes out clubbing til 2am and without his wife? If Kate was caught out like that there would be all kinds of un-fit mother stuff all over the papers. I was really surprised when the producer asked "whats in your future?" and Kate says "im here- i can't speak for anyone else " and looks at him like she wants to work things out and Jon totally burns her and says "i'm here for my kids"... i don't understand why he's so miserable..it's not like he was forced to do this show and I can understand how the cameras would get annoying but come on... your wife has never looked better, your kids are happy and healthy and now you can afford college for them, you have an amazing home and get opportunities to do things and meet people you never could before and you don't have to go into work... most people dream of the day they can retire and spend time w/ their families.. he actually gets to do that and he hates it... It sounds to me like he's jealous that Kate has something personal to do and he doesn't, he needs a hobby. You know Kate never complained that she had to quit her job to raise all these kids while he was at work all day, why can't he take care of them while she does her thing now? seems very selfish and very sad. I really like that family and I hope they work things out... It seems like Jon doesn't know what he wants and Kate wants to fix things but you can't solve a problem when you don't know what it is. get it together Jon! you're a grown up w/ 8 kids- he acts like this all happened over night and he had nothing to do with it! poor kids!
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5-27-2009 @ 11:54PM
Judy said...
Kudos go to Nicole for her post. The nail was hit on the head. Couldn't have said it better. The thing about many women is they will attack other women at the drop of a hat and feel sorry for someone like Jon. I still hope there is hope for this family. These two people are human and whatever they have or have not chosen to do, I believe the second vows should have sealed the deal. If it didn't, it isn't all one sided. If I had 8 children, and I could bring in money by any legal means I could. I do not believe these children are abused. They seem very well rounded and their Mother, in my opinion, is teaching them manners that many children don't even see in their homes. If someone needs to be worried about, it is a family where there is constant violence, cursing, and filthy behavior. Bad things are going on in many homes as I write this and nobody is doing a thing about it, but every other person seems to want to burn Kate at the stake. Don't get me wrong, I still like both Jon and Kate. I just think he went to the far side of stupid somewhere along the line.
5-28-2009 @ 1:56AM
EMILIA QUINTERO said...
HI I REALLY AGREE TO WHAT YOUR SAYING AND THE IN LAWS THEY ARE JEAULOS AND WHANT MONEY SORRY
ABOUT MY ENGLISH. I HOPE THE SHOW DOESNT END IF
JON IS FED UP KATE CAN DO IT WITH OUT HIM HE NEVER DID ANYTHING ANYWAY INSTED OF TALKING ABOUT KATE THEY SHOULD BE TALKIN ABOUT THE OCTOMOM THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THANK YOU FOR LETTING MA SAY SOMETHING EMILIA
5-27-2009 @ 4:24PM
Barbara said...
Time to cancel this train wreck.
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5-27-2009 @ 4:31PM
ilsa said...
I enjoyed watching the show since it began but after this I will not watch any further episodes. Kate is a celebrity martyr who believes her own press. Jon seems to be frustrated that his young adult years were spent raising kids. Get over it! Life is what you make it. You cannot go back. Were they too young to get married probably, were they too young to start fertility treatments absolutely, are they too far gone to come back who knows? If she and Jon want to do the right thing by their children they will have to give up the show. Maybe the fans could get a yearly special highlighting the kids achievements.
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5-27-2009 @ 4:56PM
shaun said...
I agree that they need to get way from this show if they are going to put their kids first; they both need help. Jon needs to man up. He can't keep being a sniveling little boy running from one girl after another to tell him what a shrew his wife is. And Kate has to start learning how to talk with some level of respect to him- although I can see how hard it is to respect a man who is such a baby. They've made a pact with the devil (TLC) and now they are in deep. Face it they both have benefited from the $$ and perks (tummy tucks, hair transplants, teeth whitening, trips to everywhere). And now a big house. Notice how they have no more family or friends? The parents (Jon's father s deceased) have kept away- and they will stay away because these two immature adults have behaved so dishonorably. If they can't get it together, just wait for the kids to self destruct. Sad is an inadequate word.
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6-09-2009 @ 9:53PM
GhstFlwR said...
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5-27-2009 @ 5:41PM
paul said...
kate has found fame it is obvious she enjoys it even at the expense of her husband and family. Jon on the other hand, judging by his body language has had enough. i think this threatens his overbearing wife and the fame she enjoys so much. Cut away from her Jon let her have her fame. it wont last.
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5-27-2009 @ 6:54PM
Robin said...
I've watched J&K+8 since its inception but never felt the full impact of Kate's "Holier Than Thou" attitude until watching the marathon. That was the epitome of fast forwarding thru a train wreck. Clearly, her fanatical OCD and tyrannical approach to child-rearing and money-grubbing has taken its toll on Jon, Kevin and Jodi, their volunteers and camera crew. Regarding her parents, Kate rejected donated items from her father's parish b/c they were used, didn't match, and were probably too germy for her to stomach. She berates Jon thru each episode, every move he makes, every breath he takes. I've seen comments from others who say Jon stands there looking like he doesn't know what to do. Well, would you? He has to figure out what's acceptable to the Ice Queen. Whatever decision he makes will undoubtedly get him screamed at. Once he interrupted her while she was speaking and she blew a gasket; yet in nearly every interview she cut him off, made fun of his grammar, rolled her eyes, made snide remarks into the camera, and constantly said "See what I have to deal with?" God Bless the Children b/c they don't know any better. Luckily, they have fun playing and fooling around when Mrs. Clean isn't within earshot. The fact that 3 and 4 yr olds had to remain sparkling clean 24/7 is ludicrous. To buy them ice cream and decide not to give it to them b/c it was melting and they'd get sticky was downright cruel. To scream at them for rolling down a hill b/c "grass stains are unnecessary" is beyond all reason. What kind of Mother does this? She is beyond a control freak, and Mady is a horrid, spoiled little dictator just like her Mom. But I am a product of divorce and I turned out fine, and I married and raised two stepchildren so I know their kids will be fine as well. They are loved, safe, happy and healthy. Again, I feel sorry for Jon. He tried to keep the peace much too long and she emasculated him. Whatever joy I once saw in the show is now lost on me. I am sickened by the Ice Queen and her twisted perversions. Look at everything they've attained, the trips they've taken, the luxuries they've been afforded. How much money is enough money? With all they've earned thru TLC, why write not one, but two books, and tour while the kids are so young? $$. I can understand keeping a journal for yourself, but touring, book signing, Oprah, Rachael Ray, The 700 Club, etc.? $$. She's constantly complaining of being so tired and exhausted, yet she's even started writing a cookbook. $$. Next it will be a clothing line. $$. HELLO? No wonder Jon wanted to go out and tie one on. Once I saw the triumphant look she gave the camera as she lorded over her $1.3 million spread declaring "This is ALL for my kids," I knew I was done with the show. Kate, you're not fooling anyone; this is ALL for YOU, for your image, your hype, your martyrdom. Your self-importance, your narcissism and self-righteous attitude is laughable and contemptuous. Unfortunately, I see nothing ahead for Jon except misery being stuck co-parenting with the Ice Queen while he tries to spend quality time with his kids. It's her way or the highway and clearly he's taking the highway. Whether it was her choice to evict him once the money poured in, or he finally had his fill of her diseased mind, we will probably never know, but I see no hope for this marriage unless they leave the show and start intensive counseling. I say again, God Bless the Children.
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5-27-2009 @ 8:28PM
alison1609 said...
Robin--Amen sista. Well put. She is a horrible horrible person. In one episode, she took candy away from the kids at the 4th of July parade! I never really watched the show, except while folding laundry, so I wasn't aware of her bizarre ways until quite recently. I find her so off-putting. You're right; it's all for her and about her.