(S05E12) "Well... John, we don't even have a word for it. But I believe you call it 'the monster'" - Ben
Wow, I'm not quite sure where to begin. This wasn't one of the best episodes of Lost (for lack of a better term, it was safe), but I walked away from it feeling enlightened. It's not often that Lost leaves you with more answers than questions.
That being said, I still have a ton of f%#k&$g questions.
For the most part, Ben's flashbacks played out exactly as we expected. When he kidnapped Alex as a baby from Rousseau, that was it - he kidnapped a baby. Nothing special. It's worth mentioning that at that point, it was still 1988 (possibly 1989), which means The Purge was still three or four years off (1992). Ben had already recruited young Ethan to help him at this point though. Makes you wonder if something happens to Ethan and he gets thrown into the Temple too? If not, why was he so willing to help Ben and more importantly, why were Widmore and Richard OK with Ethan helping Ben?
The other big question answered via flashback was the result of Ben's day at the pier. Did he in fact make good on his promise to Charles to kill Penny? As we all expected, no. He floundered with his gun and Desmond ended up kicking the crap out of Ben. Why he hesitated is the key - before he put a bullet in Penny, young Charlie Hume (or is it Widmore?) wandered up onto the ship's deck. Turns out Ben really does have a heart. Can't kill a mother with her son watching.
The issue with Ben having a heart is essential to the episode. We saw younger versions of Widmore for the first time since "Jughead" and it became clear that his tenure as the leader of the Others was characterized by a "my way or the highway" mentality. He frequently questioned Richard and Charles didn't like it when people disobeyed them - like when Ben was supposed to kill Danielle and Alex and instead he let them both live and took the baby.
I think Widmore's words haunted Ben at this point. Ben claimed that Charles wanted the baby dead, not the island. Widmore simply questioned Ben if he was sure. I'm not saying that the island didn't already have a god-like like aura surrounding it, but this certainly added to it. Think of religious beliefs at their base level, sort of like game theory - believe in God or don't. With the possibility of God existing, it's in your best interest to cultivate a belief. If he doesn't exist, no harm done. But if he does, you'll be better off. Apply that to the island and despite the fact that Ben really had grown to love Alex as his own daughter, I think Ben had been questioning his decision to leave Alex alive right up until Keamy put a bullet in her head.
One of the big things to take away from all this is how Ben and Charles mirrors Locke and Ben. When we saw Ben fully take power (1992? 1993? They were in the barracks, so it was post-Purge.) and send Charles home via submarine, he said Charles broke the rules. He left the island frequently and fathered Penny with an outsider years ago. Widmore continued to claim he always had the island's best interest in mind. Ben went all holier-than-thou on Widmore and said he'd never make the same mistakes. Years later, look at him. Ben is just as bad, if not worse than Widmore, and Locke is the new Ben, endlessly questioning the man he'll replace.
In 2007, when Ben finally made it to The Temple (he seemed genuinely scared) to be judged, he survived the experience. The only memories that Smokey threw at Ben were of Alex. But Ben lived, suggesting that the island did actually want Alex dead. The one thing Ben hasn't atoned for though? Refusing the give up the crown. Smokey took the form of Alex and made it clear that Ben now answers to Locke. So the question is how readily will Ben do that? Or is he willing to continue pushing it and do what Alex/Smokey already knew Ben was going to do - try and kill John ... again?
More thoughts...
- I was so angry when Lapidus left Sun, Ben, and Locke to head back to the other Ajira survivors on Hydra island. It felt like he was being set aside since he didn't fit into the plan. Then he got back! What the hell happened?!? Illana and the other survivors seemed possessed, just like Lacombe, Brennan, and Robert were after their trip inside the Temple. All of a sudden they have a plan. Or is this just a direct response to finding Caesar's (guess he wasn't as important as we all thought) body and all they know is that Frank has been gone a while? What was with "what lies in the shadow of the statue" though? That sounded awfully "I'm possessed"-ish.
- Assuming that Hawking knew that both Ben and Charles had broken the rules, why was she willing to help Ben and not Charles? And speaking of Hawking, when/how/why did she leave the island?
- If "everything that happened, happened" then why doesn't Ben remember any of the 815'ers being in DHARMA in 1977? We know he forgot about Sayid shooting him thanks to the Temple, but why wouldn't he remember the others? The guy is a master bullshitter, but he seemed genuinely taken back when Sun showed him the picture.
- Eko's death makes a lot more sense now.
- Ben's "dead is dead" line came across as being very serious. So is Locke not really alive? Is he more like whatever Christian Shepherd is now? This would explain how John suddenly just knows stuff, like how Smokey lives in the Temple.
Speaking of Smokey, at least we know what it is now - flush the cave toilet and your reward is a visit from the floating smoke turd. OK, not really, but what was up with that summoning process? Anyway, next week we're getting some background on Miles - info that presumably was meant to be included in season four had the writer's strike not happened. Here's the official description:
"Some Like It Hoth" - Suspicions about a possible breach intensify after Ben is taken from the infirmary, and a reluctant Miles is forced to work with Hurley when he's asked to deliver an important package to a top Dharma official, on "Lost," WEDNESDAY, APRIL 15 (9:00-10:02 p.m., ET) on ABC.















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
4-09-2009 @ 10:26AM
Jason said...
This episode was validating for my theory that the cloud is Anubis and Richard is Thoth, and the island is the root of all religions, and the 'chariot' that carries Ra (Jacob).
Oh, and John Locke is now a 'god' in the dead Egyptian king sense.
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4-09-2009 @ 10:27AM
Gill said...
A proverbial garden of eden as it were.
4-09-2009 @ 3:12PM
Joy said...
I have the same theory as well,except after last night's episode I had an ephiphany if you will! If you take the first letters off of Richard Alpert's name and put them together you get RA,and the man also looks like he is wearing permenant eyeliner all the time,kinda like the depictions we have of ancient eqyptians...humm
4-09-2009 @ 10:26AM
brinda said...
locke knew about smokey, because he saw rosseau's crew get attacked by them
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4-09-2009 @ 10:27AM
SassylilB said...
Actually it was Jin that saw Smokey ambush the French Crew
4-09-2009 @ 10:58AM
Mac said...
Locke knew about Smokey because he spoke to Richard. Remember he disappeared into the jungle for a bit?
4-18-2009 @ 11:20AM
itis1251 said...
Locke knows of smokies lair because he was once nearly pulled under - he was willing to go, but I believe that was yet another time Jack "new best" and held him from being dragged under successfully (as opposed to how montaund lost his arm).
4-09-2009 @ 3:15PM
bigsteve said...
Im pretty sure John knows where smokey lives because it tried yo pull him down there before.
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4-09-2009 @ 10:26AM
so Ho said...
i'm a little confused as to how Mr. Eko's dead makes more sense now. can someone explain?
thanks!
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4-09-2009 @ 10:27AM
Sho said...
When the smoke creature appeared to Eko in the form of his brother (at least I think it was the smoke creature), Eko refused to repent or ask forgiveness for his past sins. The smoke creature then killed him.
When Ben was confronted in the same way by the creature now in the form of Alex, he expressed his regrets and apologized for what he had done. The creature then spared him (albeit with a warning).
4-09-2009 @ 10:26AM
Sho said...
"Then he got back! What the hell happened?!?"
I believe one of the survivors told Lapidus that Ilana and three(?) of the other survivors had found guns while he'd been away.
I don't know if they were possessed or if they had a plan from the start, but it seems like acquiring those guns might have been key in convincing them to take action.
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4-09-2009 @ 10:27AM
Ant said...
Since everyone was on the same plane when it went through a flash how is it that Ben, Locke, Sun and Lapidus ended up in 2007 and Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sayid ended up in 1977? Please explain. Thanks.
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4-09-2009 @ 10:28AM
Maria T C G said...
There isnt an explanation yet. I am sure it will be as confusing as the rest of the "explanations" are. ;o)
4-11-2009 @ 10:28AM
jamohn said...
Sun and Ben didn't go back to '77 because they are already there as children.
4-09-2009 @ 10:27AM
Justin Williams said...
I think the other survivors are actually working for Charles and that was the code to see if Lapidus is with them. I also think sun is somehow working with widmore as well.
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4-09-2009 @ 10:28AM
MikLamb said...
That actually sounds very reasonable about Widmore being involved and the "statue" line being a code.
4-09-2009 @ 10:35AM
Jessie said...
Oooh, I like that idea - Sun met up with Widmore, but I don't remember there being anything said between them other than making propositions as to how Sun can help Widmore and vice versa. That makes sense. I like your idea a lot!!
4-09-2009 @ 10:50AM
crispy said...
I have to agree with ya. It seems like she was using a riddle to find out who else on the plane had been recruited by Widmore for the war: "What lies in the shadow of the statue?"
And my guess to the riddle: Jughead. Widmore was on the island and probably played a key role in burying Jughead. And whatever's in that box is gonna make Jughead go boom.
4-09-2009 @ 11:07AM
Mac said...
I like that idea too!
4-09-2009 @ 11:19AM
Ryan said...
That is a great idea and THAT is why Sun didn't go back in time with the others.