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As I took it, the people on earth were originally human. The Final 5 had human counterparts who created the 5 in their own image so they could resurrect and live forever. This is how "John" was built in the image of Ellen's father. The original Ellen and the rest were human scientists who had their conciousness transfered like is said to be the plot of "Caprica."

Speaking of Ellen and Cavil, I totally forgot she had sex with him on New Caprica. Ewwww.

If I remember correctly from "Sometimes a Great Notion" the remains found on Earth were Cylon and not human. I thought that and Deanna wanting to stay on her "ancestral home" were indications that the people who lived there when the bombs fell were Cylons.

Thank you. That was a great explanation.

good explanation, here are my 4 theories on 'daniel';

1. daniel is kara, whose sex changed when cavil messed with the amniotic fluid
2. daniel is baltar, thats why he can see chipsix and knows about the 1 true god
3. daniel is the father of kara and or baltar. thats why these 2 are 'special', and also hybrids. also its creepy since incest is involved.
4. daniel downloaded as pure conciousness that exists within cylon network, projecting himself to his possible son baltar and possible daughter kara. also it activated the music beacon to re-activate the final 5.

what a useless turd remark

Mike is right. The reviewer has clearly missed one of the most pivotal points of the series. Considering his pai job is to, er, review things, he should be a bit more attentive than the average viewer.

Yep, I concur with mark. if your job is to let your readers know about a show episode, then either know your show, or get someone who knows your show write your review.

This review was biased by ignorance of the preceding plot and a failure to link the current exposition in with that plot. The W.T.F. moments fall out of making the links which the reviewer did not.

Really? You gleemed that all from a common name to state the Adamas are hybrids? Missed the fact that the whole lines "factory" was contaiminated and essentially killed/boxed/erradicated?

Except that isn't Caprica supposed to predate the war with the Centurions? And didn't we just learn this week that the Centurions were shown how to create the 8 cylons in exchange for ending the first cylon war?

No, I think Daniel is...Starbuck. The amniotic fluid was contaminated and the genetic material was corrupted, turning a boy Daniel, into a girl Kara Thrace. Daniel was an artist (Kara's paintings on Caprica) and very sensitive to his environment (Kara's sensing things about the way to earth). And, let's face it, Kara Thrace is a Tomboy.

Of course, I think it makes some sense, borrowing from your theory, that Daniel is Daniel "Zac" Adama, named for his grandfather. We'll see.

I'm just kind of mad at they way they handled all the reveals this week. Revealing (though it was suspected and suggested for some time in the blogs) that there were 13 models, even though this whole time we've been told there are only 12. I always knew it was a #7 that was going to end up being special (and therefore Starbuck, IMHO). And why would Cavil and the Cylons call them the final five all that time, when they were really the original five?

Plus the use of the bullet in the brain that leads to all that expository information dumped on us by Anders. Its not as bad a plot device as that shark-jumping baby cylon blood that cured Roslin (albeit temporarily), which I detested, but that much exposition is disappointing. But, I guess, what are you gonna do if you want to get answers for everything at this point? I just think its pretty cheap. I did like the way they slipped in Special Relativity there, though.

BTW, did anyone else think Anders (Michael Trucco) was channeling his best Brad Pitt as Jeffrey Goines from "12 Monkeys?" I also thought the casting of John Hodgman as the neurosurgeon was a little distracting, and kind of broke down the fourth wall for me in this episode. You might as well have put John Stewart up there.

The religious overtones were THICK this week, maybe a little too thick. Free Will, Creators and children, one true god (who was a convenient explanation one too many times). Its a legitimate and major theme to the show, and I liked some of it. But a lot of it again was exposition, and much of it confusing. Would Cavil really side with Centurions over his more human creators as he suggests? Then again, I could identify with his wanting to be more and resentful of the limitations placed on him by his "creators." But Centurions originated the "one true God" concept? How about you, did you buy it?

All in all, I think I'm hitting about 80% on my predictions (I didn't think the final cylon was going to be Ellen Tigh, but then now we know she's not the final cylon to be revealed). I'm still waiting for the Beings of Light or the Ship of Lights to make an appearance (5 shows to go).

My next prediction: the biological resin that will be used to repair the ship will also play a role in some environmental cleanup of Earth in the end. Oh, and I thought it became clear about 2/3 of the way through this show that Boomer and Tyrol would find love again, the way their scenes were cut back-to-back (by the end of the show it appears to be an absolute certainty).

Now a show that I was calling brilliant a week ago has left me a little bit confused. Was the 13th tribe human or cylon? What happened on Kobol, why did they leave, and why is it a dead planet? Who made cylons (or ceturions, for that matter) first? Was it before or after leaving Kobol? Did colonies come up with it independently? Was earth populated by humans or cylons or both? From the beginning? How were they able to procreate? Why (and how) did they lose resurrection and then find it again? What fraking year of our history is all this supposed to have happened anyway?

I think this many questions this close to the end is walking dangerously along the edge of the cliff. Looking forward to more information next week.

In the upcoming Caprica, Joe Adama is Bill Adama's father, played by Esai Morales.

Stoltz is playing another character named Daniel Graystone.

FYI: In "Caprica" set 52 years before the events of BSG, Daniel is not Adama's father. Joseph Adama (played by Esai Morales) is. Daniel Greystone (played by Eric Stolz) is a wealthy Caprican industrialist/inventor/scientist who will usher in the first era of Cylon technology on Caprica.

Actually, I think you're right. "Daniel" is going to end up being Daniel Greystone, who however is not Adama's father--that is Joseph Adama.

The reason why this makes sense to me is because the premise of Caprica involves Daniel Greystone's daughter dying, but him creating a Cylon copy of his daughter. How would a regular caprican figure this out on his own? Unless he was one of the Cylons with Ellen, Tigh, Anders and all.

Daniel knew the process for creating skin jobs, he used this process to save his daughter's memory, and Cavil caught wind of this "abomination" created by Daniel, then punished Daniel by screwing up all his copies so no resurrection for Daniel.

I also like the theory that when Daniel died, since there was no copies for him to download in to, he exists in the network and is behind the Head-Six, Head-Baltar, and Head-Rosiln (when she was getting counsel from that dead religious leader).

Where did you get those odds? Make them up yourself or do you have a link where they came from?

Those odds are just my way to capsulize my thoughts on who the #7 turns out to be. The only way to get true parimutuel odds would be to have a place that would collect real money bets on who it is. Any volunteers? Just kidding....