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I don't think Jesse's really on an authorized mission. The impression I get is that she and a few of her other compatriots are worried about the future John Connor, and in order to "save" him they have traveled to the past in hope of separating him from the threat they see in Cameron.

I really enjoyed this episode and hope Fox gives the writers enough time to work through the storyline properly. It will be very interesting to see how the Connor's deal with the revelation of Riley being from the future and Jesse going completely against the wishes of future John. I predict death for both parties.

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The security footage has a long gap in it while the power is out - we see Boyd getting up, and trying to get out, then the next thing we see is him dead on the floor.

I think that you may have confused the "Her" that Jesse is talking about. The problem isn't that John is a mama's boy - it's that Cameron is too much of an influence in the future - he spends all of his time with her and that doesn't sit well with people like Jesse who don't trust the machines.

We will not dicsuss the sillyness of plugging the super advanced chip into a computer they had sitting around and expecting the architectures to be compatible.

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Come on, Brad. When Ellison saw Cameron stick the metal pole into the ground, you knew she was checking to see if he buried Cromartie at his house. Lay off the rum my friend when writing these reviews.

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I agree with the previous poster...no drinking on the job. But 'tis the season, eh?

How did the security camera have power to record Boyd Sherman after the building power went out? It didn't. That is why it started with him trying to get out, turned off, and than turned back on when he was dead. It tried to call out for medical assistance at this point once the system was back on.

Best line: You want to teach it commands, start with the first 10.

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this was an good episode (not great but really good). I'm pumped to see Sarah is coming back to the psyche of the movies. Last nights episode portrayed her as the Linda Hamilton Sarah we all grew up loving.

On that note I like the direction Hedley is taking Sarah. She is different from the movies, but we as viewers can relate to her struggle. Plus it makes for more interesting TV....oh and how about Glau in the evening dress?

I just wish Riley would go away. She is taking up too much time of the story and I don't see it going anywhere. Same with Jesse, it just looks and feels like trouble for this show.

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I really wish they would develop the relationship between John and Derek. Derek is John's uncle, after all. Beyond that one episode when Derek took John to watch present time Kyle and Derek play ball at the park, the relationship has been ignored. Derek has become a glorified bodyguard when he should be so much more. John could use a strong male role model and I'd like to find out more about what Kyle was really like.

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You missed a lot of it... a whole lot.

Jesse is not there to spy on John, or to find Weaver. She is there to destroy the relationship between John and Cameron. The "her" that John Conner of the future is spending too much time with is not his mom - it's the metal, Cameron, or one of who knows how many versions of her there are. That's why she's brought back, (which - how could miss that?), Riley from the future - so Riley could become John's love interest, and not Cameron.

Ellison knew exactly what Cameron was doing when she told him to go back to bed. Or he knew enough not to bother her.

The power didn't go off all at once. The power went off, the generators kicked on - which powered key systems like security, including doors and camera, and climate control. Then John Henry started re-routing the power to save itself. The camera still had power until John Henry turned everything else off. The last shot of the good doctor laying dead on the floor is from when the power came back on.

Jesse is bad, and should be stopped. She's from a different future than Derek, and there's no way to know what all that means. But she's not there to stop Skynet, and that means she's no good.

Cameron couldn't tell the chip was fake at the resturaunt because she didn't see it. The son took the chip, which was in a box, looked it at very quickly, and then shoved it in his pocket.

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Sarah's "business" hair/outfit: eh.
Sarah's "out on the town" hair/outfit in the first scene: Rowr!

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Yes, Linda Hamilton looked a lot older than Sarah Connor was supposed to be. I think this has been discussed a lot, but there is no white lie or retcon. In the T2 movie, Sarah's medical records give her age as 29, and John's juvie record gives his age as 10. I presume this is why Lena Headey is made up to look like a 45-year old trying to look her own actual age of 35.

Thomas Dekker looks a lot older than 16, too--that's why the phrase "suspension of disbelief" was coined. Katherine Hepburn and other actors of Hollywood's classic period were often cast in roles 20 or more years younger than their actual age.

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I theorize that Weaver is in fact a good Terminator. (She probably didn't kill the original Weaver and her husband, but simply took Weaver's place after an accident killed them both.)

So what's her mission? It's to protect Skynet, but also to reform it, help Skynet to get along with people, so that in the future Skynet and the Terminators will hopefully coexist peacefully with humanity.

Now this plan doesn't necessarily jibe with what Sarah, Derek and the human resistance in the future wants -- they just want Skynet destroyed. But John Connor (future and present) may be sympathetic to this.

And this, in turn, can explain why Jesse and Riley are in the present and what their mission is.

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Wow, here is a theory I want to see what you guys think. Weaver is not here for skynet, if she is why is skynet so interested in programming itself with morals? What if she is there trying to create another AI to rival Skynet? What if the machines aren't as unified as we thought and there is a bit of a civil war going on? Am I missing something to make this impossible?

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Interesting last comment there by chrissthomas. I suppose that the movies pre-condition us into viewing the plot in a certain way and if the series is to work it will have to break out of that in some way eventually.

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Brad, I don't think we're meant to assume that the Turk and John Henry (the Babylon project) are different AI's. Weaver didn't start Babylon until after she received the Turk, and the project was a complete surprise to all her department heads, especially the later-skewered AI division head, so there was nothing in development. There was never any doubt in my mind that the Turk (the first AI described with moods) developed into John Henry.

Re: BSG, I believe that T:SCC, Dollhouse and BSG are all airing at different times on Friday, so they will hopefully complement rather than compete with each other.

chrissthomas, the interrogator Cameron in S02E04 spoke of a machine faction apart from Skynet, which could have been a ruse or the truth. Sometimes the best ruse *is* the truth. We know from the movies that terminators can be set to learning mode, so I would think the longer a terminator was in the field, the more independent it would become, as we've seen with Cromartie and Weaver.

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Does NOBODY see the problem in Cromartie still having the same voice (the voice of the actor, whose name I forget at the moment) even though his chip was destroyed by Sarah Connor? He should have the default robotic terminator voice ("I need reconstructive surgery... now."), if anything. They made a point of showing how Cromartie copied the actor's voice (and then smashed and killed him). Clearly the voice data is saved in the terminator's chip. Cromartie should not sound like that actor guy now that he's been fixed and given a new chip.

This really bothers the hell outta me.

I've loved this show since day 1, but I'm not sure I like the direction it's been taking the last few episodes. I really don't like the Weaver angle, and I think Ellison should be and remain a FBI agent (or in some form of law enforcement).

Also, there are enough paradoxes in any time-travel story without them having to send Weaver back to create skynet. Which came first, skynet or skynet's future time machines? Come on. Yes, I'm assuming that's what Weaver is doing. It sure looks that way, especially since she's a murderous terminator (then again, so is Cameron).

Anyway, Cromartie's voice should be back to his default voice, and should NOT be the actor's voice seeing as how his chip was destroyed.

I figured Cromartie would have turned himself back on, rebooted, and dug his way out of the ground because his model had a backup chip in his robot-ass that the Connors didn't know about. That would make more sense and be more plausible.

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