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Great episode last night - that parasite was pretty nasty though.....

I did see the observer!!!! Thank heavens for DVR!!! I had to back it up because I thought I caught him out of the corner of my eye, and sure enough, there he was. Has he been in every episode in the background?

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where was the observer?! Damn my eyes!

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I must've missed the obsever, where exactly did we see him in the episode?

This was a very good episode, but there is just so much going on, so much information I don't really follow everything all the time.

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I knew the guy's wife was in on it (either with the infected husband on on her own). TV shows have becoem predictable with respect to extraneous characters in each episode being "the guy" (or gal). TV shows pack a crapload of plot into a half or full hour (really just 22 or 48 minutes), they have to be very tight. Once you start to think about which character is not needed for a plot purpose you'll easily be able to figure out, 99% of the time, who the bad guy is. This is especially true for Bones, Psych, and Monk. I don't see why it would be different for Fringe, though each episode is not a whodunnit and there is not always confirmation or closure at the end of each episode (in fact, we've had pretty much no confirmation of anything thus far in Fringe). Anyway, predictability aside, great episode.

One quibble I have... at this point Walter has shown he can communicate with people in a coma, listen to the ghost network on unknown frequencies, take a picture of the last thing a dead person saw... among other things. Isn't it time Peter concedes Walter is not a total nutjob, at least insofar as the science is concerned, and not be the sarcastic "well that's just nutty!" comic relief in every episode? Now he's shown Peter that he can communicate with the dead. Hopefully Peter will be more tolerant in future episodes and not be the little "that's just crazy!" wiseass barking at Olivia every time Walter has a fringe idea. It's old as far as I'm concerned. In fact it was only really valid in the first episode, before Walter's first experiment and before Peter knew about Walter's secret scientific past.

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Great episode! I, too, missed the observer. I always intend to keep my eye out for him when the episode begins, but then I become so involved in the story that it gets pushed to the back of my mind.

I can't imagine infecting myself with that greusome parasite for all the tea in China!

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I've begun observing the Observer, tracking his every move. This time he appeared at the airport. The question is what exactly was he observing?

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Great episode, but it doesn't take medical training to know what Giardia is. I was actually amazed that Olivia didn't know what it was. It's one of the main reasons American's shouldn't drink water in some other countries.

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Yea, the Observer was at the airport when Olivia arrived, and if I had to guess, I think that was what he came to observe. He turned around and started to walk away as soon as Olivia disembarked.

Pretty good episode, although again, I have to pretty much close my eyes, plug my brain, and scream "La La La" at the atrocious pseudo-science. X-files was much better (usually) at not making me turn off my brain to believe the crap they call science even has the slimmest chance in hell of being real in the next century.

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Another good episode, although I’m really frustrated that Broyles won’t come clean with Olivia on what he knows about the Pattern.

http://vacelts.newsvine.com/_news/2008/11/12/2103635-why-wont-broyles-come-clean-with-olivia-on-fringe

I loved that we finally got to see Olivia smile. I was beginning to wonder if she could. Of course, it took a guy to make it happen. I wonder just how close she and Lucas were. And when?

Well know we know of at least one experiment Walter did on Peter. Who hooks up car batteries to their child? Makes you wonder what else he’s done to Peter.
My favorite Walterism is when he’s at the hospital looking at the parasite in Loeb. They ask Walter if he can help. He replies that he can, but not here. His breath is atrocious. I loved his obsession with gum/mints this episode.

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I loved the little "Alias" reference when Loeb told Broyles to turn to "page 47."

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Only the first german conversation between Lucas and the warden where interesting.

At first Lucas told the german prison warden:
Lucas: "There may be things, you can use (you want to have) and i would be ready to talk about them."
Warden: "With what i need, you can't help me."

And then after Olivia says "I would be willing to sign anything....." she continues in german:
"...for example, something that would prove, i was'nt here"


The rest wasn't that interesting....in the cell scene with the guards, the guard just tells Olivia that her time is up and she has to leave. She tells him, that she only needs 60 seconds and he answers:"No. You must go now. You have no time left"

Next scene the guard says: "You do no have permission to be here anymore. I will use force if you do not leave emediatly"
Olivia: "I'm almost ready"

Next scene
Guard:"I will no longer ask you for this. Your time is up now"

Next scene
Guards coming in: "Come with me or we will take you with us."

...so, except the conversation Lucas had with the warden, nothing the viewers could'nt figure out by themselves.
Again it was a bit of a pity that they did not use german actors for the german characters. As a german you recognise this emidiatly because they had the typical "english" german accent. Only the warden had a good accent but his lines were a bit unusual. His grammar was a bit bad. (Maybe like my english grammar ;-) )

Anywhay...there are only a few english spoken productions out there where they use german actors for german characters and sometimes it gets strange.
For example: In an episode of Scrubs they had a german patient but his german was very very bad. Elliot had a better german accent than the so called german patient ^^.

So i hope, i could help understanding the german lines ^^.

PS: From a german point, it was an episode with some cliches (dark, messy prison with angry soldiers, for example)....but it was nice to see the airport of Frankfurt.

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....Whoops....after sending this, i saw a lot of bad english grammar....sorry ;-).... i will try harder next time....

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did anyone else think the parasite was just one of those pirahna plants from super mario bros? that thing looked awesome!

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I'm not sure where the show is going, but it's starting to feel a lot like Alias, in that it's trying to build up to something but I feel by the time it gets to that point I'll have already lost interest.

Olivia's romantic side-track in the episode felt really forced and didn't flow very well, as the scene before she was driven to keep her promise to the wife to save the husband who was dying - then in the next she's in this new guys's hotel room in an awkward romantic tension scene. I understand she had to stay in Germany overnight, but it just didn't work for me.

Maybe it's because I stuck with Alias for all five seasons, and I don't see Fringe as being that different. It's like the JJ Abrams mad lib, just switch around the characters names and organizations. Take away the fringe science part of the show and it pretty much is Alias.

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Fringe = Alias? Nah, On fringe they haven't once captured a bad guy and locked them up, only to have a mission the following week where they "had" to bring the bad guy with them only to watch him escape when all the good guys leave the prisoner handcuffed to a pole in order to chase another bad guy.

On fringe they kill the bad guy then use some weird science to recover something from their brains.

I hope fringe doesn't go the alias route because Alias became incredibly frustrating to watch as every plot point only moved forward due to the stupidity of the good guys.

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I hate when shows translate conversations. Like "getchaos" said, nothing that the viewer couldn't figure out on their own. I also agree with Getchaos that the producers should hire people that speak their native tongue. That said I totally dug last nights episode. I liked the girl from the Frighteners being in the show, but that made her a Red Herring in my opinion.

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Thanks for the German translation - much appreciated!

I watched this episode twice and picked up a lot of stuff the second time around. As Gabi said, there's so much going on, it's hard to get everything the first time. Thank goodness I did, though, because my son text'd me from school to ask if I'd seen The Observer. Fringe is a hot topic for 14-year-old boys.

My son theorizes that "the gentleman" is The Observer, and that maybe he's the one who lives in Little Hill, wherever or whatever that might be. Any thoughts on that?

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