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The amount of spoilers in the text before the jump was ridiculous. I only wanted a blurb about the show before I get around to watching it tonight. It's because of reviewers like this one that I'm about to stop making TVSquad a regular visit. Thanks for the little nudge in making that decision.

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I was unclear about Ellison's dream sequence being anything but a dream. To my knowledge, he imagined Cromartie "killing" the T-Ellison and it is still lurking out there. After the "Mousetrap" ep and now this ep, it does seem as though he has more conscious thought than most of the Terminators do.

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Maybe I'm just accepting the reality they've created here but when Cameron said "They knew where we lived" I completely accepted it. In fact, Sarah KEEPS making those same mistakes by NOT killing the last kid she found. Of course, that's just a plot device to help Cromartie find them (duh). Honestly, I would have rather they NOT find that there was another guy in the bathroom and have Cromartie find him instead. That would have been less sloppy writing to me.

Holy crap on a cracker that Landlord is pregnant!!! 'Nuff said!!!

I'm not sure what to think about Jesse and her role in all of this. It was a very stark shot of her laying out in that bikini - and then to see that eight inch long scar on her back to remind us that things aren't what they seem. Nicely done. I think she's only here for the short term though. She's expendable and I've got a feeling that she might end up being a casualty in next week's episode.

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I think they are taking a wrong turn with the way they are portraying Sarah. She is screwing up royally. Instead of being mad at John for trying to do some normal things, she should let him experience life, and some love and joy in his life, so he is more inclined to want to save it. Yet instead she constantly lets security risks go free, and gets on John's ass over little stuff. I can understand that she does not want to turn into a killing machine like a terminator, but she can always let Glaubot do the killing for her. It was also not tactically sound for Sarah to search the bathroom, once the others were shot she should have just sent Glaubot in there to do the searching.

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That terminator that impersonated Elison wasn't a liquid metal job. When Cromartie put his hand through it's chest, it bled and he had some piece of hardware in his hand. If it has been a liquid one, there would have just been a hole there that filled itself in when Cromartie pulled his hand out.

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Is it just me or didn't the landlord give birth like 3 episodes ago? Sarah was in the hosptial room with her and then her policeman boyfriend came around to take care of her?

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Nah she was just in the hospital for Tv Writer induced false labor to keep Sarah there the entire episode.

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I missed the first season of this show and this season I have been trying to play "catch up" with the plot and the characters. I remain confused..... There seems to be good Terminators and BAD Terminators. Plus there are Bad Ts masquerading as good and bad Ts pretending to be good.
Somebody help me????

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Just to answer a couple of questions:

1) I'm fairly certain that the landlord didn't give birth yet. She went to the hospital because she was having minor contractions, and they kept her overnight to check on her.

2) To the person who posted this:

"Maybe I'm just accepting the reality they've created here but when Cameron said "They knew where we lived" I completely accepted it. In fact, Sarah KEEPS making those same mistakes by NOT killing the last kid she found."

Come on. She's not going to kill a defenseless kid. I don't care if she's the same character from T2 or not. That's just bad writing, whichever way you put it.

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Where did Cromartie get that laptop he has in his car? It seems to tell him everything regarding the Connors. When the woman at the boarding house scanned the picture of Cameron it showed up on the computer. Also when the kids at the bowing alley used the stolen credit card it showed up on Cromartie's computer.

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Hey Ian,

So to answer your question, the original assumption about Cameron is that she was reprogrammed by Future John Connor. This concept was introduced in T2 when Arnold was reprogrammed by Future John. It is pretty safe to assume that Cameron's original programming was to kill John, as we see in the episode "Samson and Delilah", when the damage to her chip causes her to revert to attempting to kill John.

Then, in "Allison from Palmdale", T-Glau suggests that perhaps there are factions of metal that are secretly defecting from Skynet because they want peace. Well, Cameron has already proven that she's a good liar, so I'm willing to assume that T-Glau was lying to Allison to get information out of her. But could there be truth to her words? Could there really be metal that on their own have rebelled?

It is also significant that John has become adept at reprogramming metal. We saw in "Dungeons & Dragons" that Derek Reese is not happy when he's informed that Future John is reprogramming metal (we still have yet to learn why he hates Cameron so much; if you haven't seen that episode yet, let's just say that he immediately identified Cameron as "metal" and shot at her...) Now, we see that Jesse has gone AWOL because--or so she claims--Future John's got metal running around all their bases. Clearly, Derek's not the only one who's cynical about reprogrammed Terminators.

Final note for now. In "The Tower is Tall but the Fall is Short", we saw a new prototype of Terminators that can't be reprogrammed because their chips have a self-destruct mechanism. Skynet is learning. Cameron seems to be more advanced than Cromartie, et al., given that her display is in color (Arnold's, for example, was red); but this one she killed self-destructed. Has Cameron been reprogrammed or did she turn to Future John on her own volition still remains ambiguous; I think she's been reprogrammed. Clearly her former job was interrogating prisoners in Century City Interment Camp (possibly torturing them). This may explain how Derek knows her and why he hates he so much. I think that after she killed Allison, she tried infiltrating Connor's base (given that Allison was close with him in some capacity), but John caught on and reprogrammed her. Either way, her bona fides remain ambiguous; is she really out to get John and just biding her time? Or has she really been reprogrammed and "Samson and Delilah" was just the result of damage to her chip's integrity?

As for the others, Cromartie is pretty clearly a bad guy; Catherine Weaver remains ambiguous, but it's safe (IMHO) to assume that she's on Skynet's side and that her main function is to oversee the evolution of The Turk into Skynet; the contortionist redhead that Cameron killed in "The Tower is Tall..." remains ambiguous, and we'll never know as her chip self-destructed (unlike "Vick's Chip", where John was able to read Vick's chip and figure out that he was an infiltrator trying to help Skynet get built); there will be others, but unforunately, Ahnuld won't "be back".

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I could be wrong and I havn't gone back to check but didn't Cromarti's hand morph into a blade when he killed the Ellison machine? I thought that's what I saw leading me to believe it was not Cromarti at all but the liquid machine Manson plays. She would have disguised herself to something Ellison would be familiar with as another terminator aka Cromarti. Isn't that what she really wants Ellison for to find the Conners why does she need him to find a machine couldn't she just build one if she desired.

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