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They're also continuing on the daughter's weight. She's playing Piglet in the play.

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Yeah, but piglet isn't really a fat character, pooh would have been worse.
I like how Peggy answers her own phone with a different voice, pretending to have a secretary. I agree that this storyline with the priest is no the most interesting.
Betty breaking the chair was not really that strange when you think about how her character usually reacts to things.
I felt bad for Joan in this episode, as it is obvious she wants to do something more with her life than simply be a housewife, but no one else seems to know or care.
Also, That Warren character is pretty pathetic.

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The Heineken placement was genius! http://bit.ly/2wnG6U

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I know this show is called Mad men but tonight's episode, IMO, was all about the Mad Women.

Betty with the chair, not sleeping after the dinner party and staying in the same dress all of the next day. When she stepped on the wine glass and removed the shard without even wincing I thought hear comes some bi-polar cutting. I don't want Betty to be Laura Petrie, at all. I want her to do as she did and tell Don to get the heck away.

Joan was also on the verge. So contented with her doctor fiance but already wanting more for herself than his suggested bon bon eating housewife. I hope she rebels and searches out more.

Peggy and the priest. Yes, it's slow to evolve as are many of the plotlines. Peggy's story, denial and subterfuge are SO powerful! The scene with Peggy in the bathtub was astounding.

Remember the times. We are at the threshold of Civil Right and Women's Lib. If the show stays as true as it has to history, the men are about to have their a@@es handed to them.

The priest, at the end, singing Peter Paul and Mary, seems to forshadow what is on the horizon. Last season we saw the end of the Beatnik era. Tonight we heard from the beginning of the Folk era and Free love that was the rest of this decade.

Next week's preview with Peggy confronting Pete and Betty continuing to confront Don. You go girls!

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"I don't get Betty's reaction at the party when it came to the beer"

From the beginning of the show it's been clear that Betty's hold on mental health is tenuous at best and now she is heading toward bat-sh*t crazy. Living with Don and her kids certainly provides stress enough, but I wonder if her blue blood family might be a little inbred as well.

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The recapper doesn't seem to understand the concept of a mental breakdown or the chipping away of the facade that clearly characterizes Betty's situation. Her whole life consists of presenting a pretty picture of herself as the perfect wife in a perfect marriage...when that illusion begins to crumble, Betty's anger and frustration has always manifested itself unconsciously through the "bizarre" acts mentioned; however, I don't see what's so inexplicable about them, when the unraveling they're indicative of is obvious.

I agree that for the most part the Heineken issue was a tempest in a teacup, but to Betty, it was an especially flagrant insult. Don's "experiment" on her showed a presumption on Don's part that he knew his wife like the back of his hand, that she was simple to predict, as opposed to him, someone very private and enigmatic and adept at separating his two lives - Don was so confident that he was pulling the wool over her eyes that Betty finally flipped, wanting him to know that his actions were also more transparent than he thought. As in most marriages, fights about smaller things usually point to larger issues in the marriage, which Betty demonstrated by segueing directly into her accusations of infidelity.

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What's so difficult to understand about the concept of mental breakdowns or the chipping away of the facade that clearly characterizes Betty's situation? Her whole life consists of presenting a pretty picture of herself as the perfect wife in a perfect marriage...when that illusion begins to crumble, Betty's anger and frustration has always manifested itself unconsciously through the "bizarre" acts the recapper mentioned; however, I don't see what's so inexplicable or perplexing about them, when the unraveling they're indicative of is quite obvious.

I agree that for the most part the Heineken issue was a tempest in a teacup, but to Betty, it was an especially flagrant insult. Don's "experiment" on her showed a presumption on his part that he knew his wife like the back of his hand - that she was simple to predict, as opposed to him, someone very private and enigmatic, adept at separating his two lives and doing whatever he wanted while his wife remained oblivious. Don was so certain that he was pulling the wool over her eyes that Betty finally flipped, wanting to make it clear to Don that his actions were also more transparent than he thought. As in most marriages, fights about smaller things usually point to larger issues in the marriage, which Betty demonstrated by segueing directly into her accusations of infidelity after confronting him about the Heineken dupe.

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'scuse me I have tears in my eyes laughing about roommates at the age of 40+

*snort*

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Oh and the beer was a setup for her telling him she knows about the affair. That's how women work.

*chuckle*

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To Betty, the whole beer thing was like being the butt of a joke. She mentioned everyone laughing at her. She wants to be a partner to Don, to help him with his work, so to find out that she had fallen for one of his marketing scams and everyone knew about it, that hurt.

Betty doesn't feel like she has anyone on her side. She thought Don was back to being the husband she expected and she was being included in his work life but that was shattered. She wants attention, she wants to be noticed, she likes feeling her age instead of a Mom of two. She tried to ignore what Jimmy told her but it's in the back of her mind as she stages this perfect dinner for Don, showing him why he should love and want her more than anyone else. Of course she was pissed about the whole beer thing.... it's her world, it's where she shines, and they laughed at her. It's the straw that broke the camels back.

Haven't you ever had a bad week where everything went wrong and when you get home one day, your kid or your spouse says something stupid or silly that just throws you over the edge? It could be you forgot to get the milk or you trip over a toy and you just blow. It's not that one thing that made you upset, it was all the things leading up to it.

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I have always wanted to like Don, but watching this episode, I hated him. He was such a jerk acting like she was crazy for saying he was screwing around - and being so indignant about it.

They gave Joan's "new" job to some guy who doesn't have a clue and she's supposed to train him! Like she would not like to make $150. I'm sure that's many dollars above her secretarial pay. And the fiance' that wants the "little woman" at home not using her brain.

Geez... this episode really showed how men USED to be so clueless. They USED to be that way, right? Certainly men don't think that way today??

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I'm glad to see Joan is waking up. Nice touch: Joan literally chafing in her harness. There's a reason Peggy dresses like "like a little girl": it's more comfortable.

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Has anybody else wondered if there's a backstory with the priest and abuse of young boys? When we met him for the first time earlier in the season, Peggy had more or less caught him in the act of 'disciplining' a couple of young boys. Maybe I was seeing something that wasn't really there, but it looked suspicious to me. Just curious if anyone else had a reaction to that scene.

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I suggest this episode is generally about the baggage the women carry around with them and how it wears them down. For Betty, its the happy homelife facade, which finally cracked when Jimmy confronted her with the fact of Don's infidelity. For Peggy, its her secret sin, which the priest came very close to getting her to face up to. I was astonished at the fleeting turmoil that flashed across her face and how she recovered to send the priest on his way with the photocopies.

And for Joan, its her sex object image that she's cultivated her entire career. She can't overcome it even when she demonstrates some real value to the firm with the script review assignment. This sexual baggage is literally chafing at her shoulders.

BTW, where was Jane?

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hello everybody.will i ask something. what is madmen' music? the
music is effect me.
Please certain answer my question... :)))

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hello everybody.will i ask something. what is madmen' music? the
music is effect me.
Please certain answer my question... :)))

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