TVSquad

*sigh*

If Bush snubs China, the Chinese will NOT see it as a snub over human rights in Tibet or anywhere else. The Chinese PEOPLE will see it as a complete snub of them and an insult to ALL Chinese. Hate to burst anyone's bubble, but neither the Chinese people nor the Chinese government see any significant difference between them. Outsiders that insult one of them insult ALL of them. They;re not so bitterly divided as we are here.

Don't use your own narrow political views to filter the rest of the world. Get acquainted with all the details before you prattle on about how stupid Bush is being.

We need China for two big reasons right now.

1. The loss of Chinese goods would cripple our economy and make the current trouble seem like a walk in the park.

2. We need them to keep North Korea in check. Regardless of how some idiots in this country see NK, they are a danger to that part of the world and China knows it. Bush is shoring up Chinese support by attending the games when so many other stupid, Western morons are using the games to stage their own personal little melodramas.

Snubbing them and boycotting the Games will only solidify China's resolve to own, maipulate and destroy (if they feel like it) Tibet. It WILL NOT FIX THE PROBLEM. The Chinese do not do *anything* because of outside pressure. They will move when they want to move, and the way to get them to *want* to move is to continue offering them the benefits of Western business and modernization.

China is an amazingly complicated, and yet amazingly simple place. Most Westerners don't get it at all.

*heavy sigh*

#2 is valid, but the Chinese have never stopped selling goods to anyone because they felt "snubbed." You forgot a better #1, though, which is that they are financing the war in Iraq as well as lower US taxes by continuing to buy large amounts of US bonds.

Seriously, though, the Republican congressmen are only trying to make the administration be consistent in its policy of not "rewarding" bad actors with official visits and other attention. OTOH, the President thinks Vladimir Putin is a swell fellow, and he may think the same of Wen Jiabao, Hu Jintao, etc.

@bc: Oh that is so frigging ridiculous. All you've done is demonstrate your ignorance about international diplomacy, trade and relations with China.

Not everything requires full display of your BDS you know.

Obviously, George would have to accept campaign contributions from the Commies and give them missile technology (like the last guy) to earn any respect around here.

@ Malren, "Snubbing them and boycotting the Games will only solidify China's resolve to own, maipulate and destroy (if they feel like it) Tibet. It WILL NOT FIX THE PROBLEM. The Chinese do not do *anything* because of outside pressure. They will move when they want to move...."

How can it solidify their resolve and have no effect on their decisions at the same time?

Oh for fuck's sake. It will not have the effect Westerners expect, but rather strengthen their resolve to do the opposite in order to demonstrate both sovereignty and Chinese pride. Is that better, Nitpicky McNotcontributing?