Part Five: The Money ShotAfter about an hour and a half of fake fights, thrown tennis balls, and clap after clap after clap, everyone sat down for a Q&A.
The students were able to ask questions of the following three people:
Robert Russel, the aforementioned reality show casting director.
Dave Martin, finalist on season one of Bravo's Top Chef.
Jorge Bendersky, "Dog Stylist" on Animal Planet's Groomer Has It.
I'm going to do something that I haven't done up until this point: report what happened without snarky asides or not-so-subtle digs at the students or organizers. This hour was actually worth the price of admission. If you're someone that is truly interested in the way reality shows work and what they're looking for, the Q&A gave some real insight into the process.
Here's what I learned:
-- According to Russel, he's not looking for talent. Talent does not matter, even if he were to cast a show that is, ostensibly, talent based (like Top Chef or Last Comic Standing). He's looking for personality first and talent a distant second.
-- When you're trying to get on a reality show, one of the most important things is to "give the producers what they want." This goes back to Robert's slogan. The key to success on these shows is your willingness to do whatever is necessary to make the show entertaining.
-- Russel is well aware that the majority of people trying to get on the shows are actors. "We all know that actors come and audition for this, we just don't want you to tell us."
-- Jorge agreed with this; he did no actual dog grooming in his audition for Groomer Has It and, indeed, never did any real dog grooming before he got on the show. The producers didn't really care and neither did he. See, a reality show about dog grooming doesn't need actual dog groomers as much as it needs out-sized personalities that make dog grooming look interesting.
-- Dave mentioned that the Top Chef people made each contestant see a psychologist before shooting began. After meeting with the shrink, the producers, with the help of the psychologist, assigned each person a role on the show. The "nice guy", the "villain", the "drama queen" -- all roles assigned before shooting.
-- This apparently is common practice on a lot of reality shows.
-- Editing, as you'd expect, plays a huge role in the outcome of a show. What you see is not necessarily what was filmed.
-- Jorge befriended the producers and a lot of what he did on the show was planned ahead of time with the producers' approval. This was done to maximize his screen time.
-- Finally, it's interesting to watch someone like Jorge, the kind of outgoing extrovert that makes for perfect reality TV, attempt to share the spotlight with Russel and Dave. It was obvious to me that the only person the students really wanted to talk to was Russel (after all, he was the gatekeeper of the fame they all desired), but Jorge was either oblivious to this or was too in love with the spotlight to care. I joked with Vinnie and Kate (the blogger from MSN) that I was going to ask a serious medical question -- what are some of the common causes of aneurysms? -- just to see if Jorge would answer that without hesitation.
Okay, I had one snarky aside. So sue me.
Part Six: This means something. This is important.
I've written almost four thousand words about the New York Reality TV School, but I'd feel like I was shirking my responsibilities if I didn't draw some final conclusions about the day. I'll try to keep them short and sweet:
1. Anybody who thinks that there is anything close to reality in reality TV shows is officially one of the Thermians from Galaxy Quest. I'm telling you, I was there, I heard what the producers wanted, how they manipulate the truth, and how the contestants in the shows are complicit in that manipulation. We have to start calling them fiction. It's like wrestling in the 80s... someone needs to stand up and point out what we all know, Hulk Hogan isn't really punching all those people!
2. There's a sad, Faustian bargain at work when you consider that the majority of reality TV show wannabes are actors. Here's what I mean: you would assume that an actor wants to become famous by dint of their talent. Ideally, their passion is for their work and any fame they get is just a by-product of that passion. Seeking a spot on a reality TV show is essentially saying that you've given up on your talent. As Russel said: it's not about the talent. So, these people who at one time had their hearts set on being recognized for their fabulous talents are now willing to do whatever it takes just so they might be recognized. As a kinda-sorta artist myself (comedian/ridiculously longwinded blogger), I both pitied and understood their position. Show business is not the kind of business you'd want to see your kid in.
3. That said, there are a few happy stories to be had. Dave Martin, for instance, is now following his muse as a restauranteur in New York City. He told me that he thinks his cast was unique because they didn't know what Top Chef was; sure the conventions of a reality show were there, but a lot of that original cast were passionate about food first and fame second. I asked him flat out if he had the choice between being the king of New York food or giving it all up to become some Food Network star, what would he want. He said the former, without hesitation. So integrity is possible.
4. For as much guff as I gave the NYRTV school in this article, Robert put on a pretty good show that I could see an aspiring reality TV show star finding useful. As I said, the Q&A is the real heart of the program, but the students didn't seem to mind the other exercises. I asked a lot of them on the way out if they enjoyed the class, and the answer was an overwhelming yes. Reviewing this school is like reviewing fetish porn: it might make you throw up, but you can't deny it gets the job done for the people who enjoy that sort of thing.
For more information about the school and for a class schedule, you can visit the New York Reality TV School on the web.
[Additional reporting and photography for this piece was done by Vinnie Nardiello.]












Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
6-27-2008 @ 2:41PM
Scott K. said...
Interesting article (and without the snarky asides, I wouldn't have made it through). Though, I think you've made me a little sadder about the world my children are growing up in.
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6-27-2008 @ 3:37PM
Zarquon said...
My condolences, there's nothing worse than being trapped with *sincere* people. I used to take a lot of modern dance classes that would have similarly inane loosening-up exercises (no lie, I was once asked to imagine myself as a tree). I would usually decide to throw myself into it as a ironic performance art piece for an audience of zero (I am green and leafy, my branches reach out to the sun and the wind and my roots drink deeply of the earth's water). The kindred spirits (yes, I just used that phrase un-ironically) would get it, the rest were usually a little befuddled.
Next time you're asked to dance, turn it into a mosh pit.
"Never Deny, Always Reply, Never Ask Why."
This sounds like improv advice, and really makes more sense in that context.
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6-27-2008 @ 5:51PM
ac said...
I went to something for a class where they made us do a dance called "my Little Pony." When I was asked to leave the circle and gallop like a horse, my mind nearly exploded from the sheer number of snarky comments that I could of said. Most were along the lines of "aren't we in f--king college?!" I hate loosening up exercises.
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6-27-2008 @ 6:43PM
Jennifer said...
Jay, you have my admiration for sticking through the entire thing, without screaming, and writing this up so very, very well.
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6-28-2008 @ 9:12AM
Jay Black said...
Hey gang -- thanks for the comments. Just wanted to let you know that the original article mentioned a price of $200 per person. That was INCORRECT -- the three hour course was actually $139. I've made the appropriate changes in the main text!
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6-28-2008 @ 8:06PM
Sally Crendell said...
Sounds like this writer is jaded, I mean is searching for his own audience. Snarky? Cynical? Jaded? And at such a tender young age. Between is self serving negative remarks he continues to point out the benefits of the workshop so.... why be snarky in the first place? Oh and the web site doesn't mention a fee of $200.00. Fact checking is a plus. :)
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6-29-2008 @ 11:11AM
Robert said...
Hey All,
Robert Galinsky here and before ya'll get out of hand I'd like to say that "Reality" is a tricky thing and give Jay a break. He's a journalist who came in with an angle and stuck with it throughout, hence the color of the article. It's all good.
RG
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6-29-2008 @ 1:32PM
Cody said...
OK Jay
It you felt like i was attacking you and not the article is because you came in with a preconceived notion of what the school was gonna be like and you didn't give it a chance. If the blog was more like "i thought this was a stupid idea but I'll go in with an open mind." and you hated it after that, it would be a different story.
Next time if you feel the need to leave then "Roll Out."
No one forced you to stay.
You won't catch the Pope at a strip club
Just so he can run home and blog about how bad it was.
Like i said. Not everything is for everybody.
I guess common sense is not so common anymore.
Oh thanks for the "career advice"
P.S. you're still not funny!
my turn... next time you try to make a joke
Don't.
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6-30-2008 @ 7:38AM
Charlie from Rowan said...
"I guess common sense is not so common anymore."
Well, I should say not, sir.
What I don't understand is the genre itself. Reality TV to me feels like it doesn't know what it wants to be. Like _The Hills_ is a reality show, but in all seriousness, no one watches it and says "clearly these are unscripted, real people in their daily lives."
But, if the point of the show is to make the audience believe that this is how people live, and the show is clearly not achieving that, why even put up the charade? It's not even novelty anymore. Just say, "these are actors, this is scripted." (Unless, of course, there's some sort of SAG loophole that the producers are exploiting)
Am I making sense?
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6-30-2008 @ 8:16PM
Cody-Ann said...
Dude you need to get laid or something, why are you such a prick? I was there and my depiction of the events were completely different from yours. You were trying (and I emphasize trying) to be way too funny in your article. Not everything is for everybody and this clearly wasn't for you. And don't make it seem like you are so much better than the people like me that enjoyed themselves and got their moneys worth. But people like you are so much better than people like me right? Wrong! you're an entertainer just like everyone in the class. Trust me you're not the only one that heard the name (Reality TV school) and thought this was going to be ridiculous. If you go to the website and read about all the press the school has been getting then you will see that you are the only ass bashing the school and trying to be funny. Kick rocks Jay "holier than thou" Black
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6-28-2008 @ 4:26PM
Jay Black said...
Hey Cody,
Just a small clarification on the "press" section of The New York Reality TV school website:
I did as you requested and took a look at all the links on that page: 13 stories are listed. Three of the stories are reprints of the same press release (indeed, they all have the same title) simply announcing the school's existence. Five more are articles that were written presumably from the same press release before the school had started. One was a digg article linking back to one of the OTHER articles listed. Three more are blogs that link to OTHER articles listed on the press page.
The only article that wasn't written from a press release or simply a link to one of those articles was a piece written by Troy Patterson at Slate.com. He called the school "a three-hour lesson in cultivating narcissism" and had less complimentary things to say about it than I did.
So, while I won't quibble with your assessment of my inability to be funny or my need to get laid or my holier-than-thou attitude, I do need to take umbrage at the idea that I'm "the only ass bashing the school." Twelve of the thirteen writers didn't come, and the one who did, uh... bashed the school.
Thanks for your comments, though. And, if I may be so bold: perhaps, next time you get angry at something somebody writes about the New York Reality TV school, instead of writing an angry ad-hominen attack at the writer, you should go into your closet and videotape yourself "venting" about the article. It might make for good practice for when you get on a reality show! :)