
Well, did you watch it? Last night CBS boldly went where no network has gone before... and it kind of sucked. That's too bad. As someone who counts himself as a fan of MMA, I had high hopes for the big debut. But then, I knew going in that it was an iffy proposition. They try hard, but the Elite XC is still far from the cream of the MMA crop. For the prime time debut, it really would have been nice if this could have been a big UFC event. Heck, even the WEC with that Uriah Faber vs Jens Pulver (VS tonight at 6PM PST) match would have been preferable.
Despite the lack of big name talent, the show still had a shot. Great fights can make up for a lot of shortcomings, and this one had a lot of them to be made up for. To start, the production left a lot to be desired. For example, if you are promising the fans big time fighting, get to it already. It took a full 25 minutes before the first match started. Worse than that, given the way the first two matches played out, fans were left with just over two minutes of actual fighting in the first hour of the show. I was left thinking that the most exciting thing about the first hour was the commercial for Street Fighter IV. Not a good sign.
The team doing the coverage wasn't the greatest either. Mauro Ronallo, Gus Johnson, and Frank Shamrock all did an ok job, but you have to compare them to their peers. They come off as lacking when you hold them up to the dynamic that you get from Mike Goldberg, Joe Rogan, and Randy Couture.
As I said before though, good fights trump everything. If the fights were really good, you could listen to an announce team speaking in a foreign language and it would still be a great show. And that is ultimately what killed the Elite XC here. Let's take a look at the matches.
The first two were both instantly forgettable. Yeah, the occasional quick knockout is exciting, but it was exactly the opposite of what the show needed. Joe Murphy was never even in his fight with Brett Rogers. Much like Phil Baroni putting up no real challenge for Joe Villasenor. Baroni's tired entrance shtick, which looked like Val Venis, without the humor, took longer than his fight.
And then we had one of the few bright spots of the night. Surprisingly, it came from the women. Gina Carano vs Kaitlin Young was the fight I was most interested in coming into the show. For one, the women's division is the one thing that really set it apart. You just don't see a lot of girls doing MMA on the TV. Also, of course, Gina Carano is just ridiculously hot, and the fact that she's dedicated herself to being a fighter is fascinating.
The fight was better than I had anticipated. Both of them are much more powerful than I had expected, landing, and taking, some really big kicks and punches. The best part though, was that this fight finally had some shifts in momentum. Kaitlin Young wasn't just another step on Gina Carano's tour. She had her moments where she was up in the fight. And damn, the girl is tough. If you watched, you had to see that quickly expanding mouse under her left eye at the end of round two.
And then things really started to go off the rails. I didn't think much of the stopping of that fight when it happened. I've certainly seen fighters go back out with injuries worse than Young's, but I was willing to accept the doctor's decision to stop the fight there. In light of how the rest of the night played out though, it was a harbinger of things to come.
The next fight really had the makings of a signature for the Elite XC. Scott Smith and Robbie Lawler were well matched and put on a great show. Like Young, Smith can take a punch. And his ability to absorb damage and recover served him well as he and Lawler went back and forth. The first round got off to a slow start, with boos raining down from impatient crowd. After that though, it was a good match. Right up until that unfortunate finger to the eye. The stories vary, and I'm sure there is plenty of blame to be passed around, but right or not, the doctor stopping the fight right there was the worst thing that could have happened to the show. It was the big title fight, tied one round apiece and still anybody's to win, and we are left with a no contest. Ridiculous.
But wait, there was more ridiculous to come. I thought the addition of the Kimbo Slice fight was a smart decision. His internet stardom means that he is more familiar to the non-MMA fan, and could draw a crowd. With that in mind though, it probably wasn't the best idea to put his match at the end of the show. If you are asking someone new to join you in this endeavor, probably not the best idea to ask them so sit through two hours of two bad fights, and two fights with questionable endings, to get to it. I'd guess that a lot of the audience had given up by the time the 11:00 hour approached and they finally got to the main event.
The fight itself surprised me. I thought they would bring in some tomato can so as not to endanger all the promotion they have put into Kimbo. James Thompson proved himself very dangerous. He also exposed Kimbo Slice. There is much more hype than actual skill to Kimbo when it comes to MMA. At this point, he's still a one trick pony. If somebody stands in front of him and lets him swing away, yes, he's going to eventually knock them out. But on the ground, he's more than vulnerable. He needs a lot more training before he is ready to take on any of the more accomplished fighters in the sport.
While it did take a little of the shine off of Kimbo, it did make for an interesting fight. Thompson had him on the ropes and looked to actually have a shot at winning the fight at one point. But again, like the two fights before it, it all ended up going to hell. That was one of the worst stoppages I have ever seen in MMA. Sure Thompson looked like he was about to be knocked out, but he had looked like that in the round before as well. If he could have wrapped Kimbo up and gotten him to the ground again, he could have come back. I highly doubt that Big John McCarthy or Herb Dean would have stopped the fight while Thompson was still on his feet and swinging.
Even if it was a good stop, which is debatable, it was again a horrible result for the debut of Elite XC. Your two biggest matches ending with the crowd booing and chanting bullshit is not a good sign. At the end of the day, the start of this experiment was about as bad as it could get. I would probably tune in to watch it again, but it's gone from wanting to see a great show to being more like how I watched Heatstroke on SciFi last night. How bad can it get?















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
6-01-2008 @ 3:31PM
Gary said...
I was disappointed with the outcome of the last 2 only because i think Mergliata should have let Thompson actually fall as he was giving Kimbo lots of time when Thompson had him pinned on the mat and was beating him. It kinda looked like Mergliata was favoring Kimbo on that. Smith should have been given his 5min break to recover....bad call on that one for sure. The other fights were really good and overall it was a good first event for CBS.
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6-01-2008 @ 4:32PM
sdm said...
I had never watched MMA before & it was OK. I think a couple of the fights were stopped early because CBS didn't want to see someone really get hurt. I just have a feeling that the network had a mandate of "when in doubt, stop the fight." I could be wrong.
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6-01-2008 @ 3:43PM
Christopher said...
They should have went with the UFC instead.
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6-01-2008 @ 4:03PM
Adam said...
To me, the night was all about Ms. Carano. Everyone knows she's hot, but last night she proved she's also a hell of a fighter. I thought Kaitlin Young might have pulled of the upset when she had Conviction/Crush on the ground in a near choke, but Gina proved that she's a hell of a fighter even after only 3 weeks to train. I didn't know she was the only Muay Thai champ from America ever, so that and last night just added to her legend.
As for Kimbo, anyone who has even glanced at his youtube videos could tell he was only a standup fighter. The guy has incredible power, but its pretty much negated when his arms are being held on his back. The TKO was a bit premature, but after the fight the Colossus' eyes were literally rolling in his head. So I think it was ultimately the right call.
The Smith/Lawler ending was definately Busch. They told him he had 5 minutes to recover and they called it after 2 minutes. WTF! All in all it was definately worth the 2+ hours of viewing. The 2 knockouts were entertaining, especially seeing the "man of faith" get dropped. I am so going to hell.
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6-01-2008 @ 4:07PM
MERVE-THE-PERVE said...
I'm pissed off. I Tivo'd it and forgot it was basically a Showtime production. They never allow enough time for all the fights when they decide the ending time. So my dvr stopped recording before the Kimbo fight. By the time I was ready to watch it it was 1am and the Lawler fight had just ended. I should have known better, but still. Frickin CBS and Showtime.
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6-01-2008 @ 4:10PM
MCW said...
Mine stopped early too. I never saw anything that said "LIVE", so I don't know what exactly they were thinking.
I liked the show, it'll be something good to watch on Sat. nights. The writer of this article is annoying.
6-01-2008 @ 8:48PM
Dave T said...
I'm in the same boat. I only DVR'ed it to watch Kimbo, and that's the only thing it didn't record. There must hae been 30 minutes of fights and an hour and a half of commercials & fight intros.
6-01-2008 @ 4:25PM
Hollywood Ron said...
I haven't seen officiating this crooked since the last time I got a Don King PPV. Can we just have Kimbo fight Bob Sapp now and get it over with? Two big, hulking punchers with no stamina are perfectly matched for one another, and Bob Sapp was Kimbo Slice back when Kimbo was still Kevin Ferguson.
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6-01-2008 @ 4:42PM
Andrew said...
I think the title fight stoppage was semi-bullshit. I say that because it was mostly Smith's fault. You do not EVER tell an MMA doctor that you can't see. That's about the dumbest thing he could have possibly said in that moment. If I were the doctor I definitely would have given him the 5 minutes to try to recover, but I can see the doctor wanting to error on the side of caution. The safety of the fighters comes before anything else...
As far as Kimbo Slice goes...I have absolutely no idea how this guy got to be such a superstar for EliteXC. I mean, he's only been in 2 sanctioned fights! 2! The fight should have been stopped near the end of the second round for sure...there was absolutely nothing Kimbo could do to get out of it.
That ear looked like it had a effing tumor growing on it. I had a feeling that nasty looking thing would figure into the end of the fight. Why the hell did they not have that thing popped and drained before the fight? I'm not usually one to believe in conspiracy theories but that fight smelled a little fishy. If Kimbo gets beat by a nobody, what other stars do EliteXC have to lean on? Gina? Please...I think Gary Shaw made an executive decision to protect their "star." It was pathetic how he could barely even breathe after the fight.
Overall EliteXC came off looking completely bush league tonight, and I don't think Dana White and the UFC have anything to worry about in the near future.
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6-01-2008 @ 5:00PM
Rob said...
Here's an indication of how valuable EliteXC was to CBS affiliates... WTVR-TV/Richmond dumped out of the show immediately after the final match -- they didn't come back for the wrapup segment. Richmond viewers heard, but didn't see, Gus Johnson doing the first few seconds of the wrap before the local news suddenly appeared.
So we can see that at least one Tiffany Network affiliate isn't fond of MMA...
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6-01-2008 @ 6:43PM
Lenny said...
Aren't there plenty of sports networks already? That's where this should've aired. It might've been done properly and been worth the time to watch had it been on a sports channel.
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6-01-2008 @ 10:13PM
Nathiest said...
Bad fights happen so what? We still got blood and at the end of the day thats all what we really wanted.
Young never had a moment over Gina even when Young had Gina on the Ground Gina still took control of the situation with that wicked rarely seen choke move.
Their faces tell it all. Look at Gina's face and the end of the fight then look at Young's. Gina may had been 4 lbs. over but that mad no difference in this fight. Gina won this fight by pure skill. TKO and the T is for TOTAL!
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6-01-2008 @ 10:32PM
Andrew said...
Uh...I don't watch to see blood, I watch to see good competition.
6-01-2008 @ 10:59PM
aphoward said...
Probably the one reason why I haven't gotten into MMA more seriously (big time pro wrestling fan for years), and that is the referee stoppage. If the guy isn't actually knocked out, tapping out, or passed out, it shouldn't be a knockout or stoppage or whatever. A guy on his feet *looks* like he's gonna pass out? WTF? He's in the ring, standing, let him keep fighting until it's over.
Seems crooked beyond belief, and the previous commenter seems right on about that ear. Bogus. I'll stick to the UFC, at least that is limited to 1 BS stoppage per ppv usually, lol.
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6-02-2008 @ 12:30AM
Picviewer said...
All we needed was Richard Dawson hosting and it would have been complete for turning America circa 2008 into the Running Man version. This showing up on network television was truely pathetic as a indication of a society. But I guess the methheads needed something to watch.
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6-02-2008 @ 1:16AM
MERVE-THE-PERVE said...
I liked it better in the old days where it was tournament style and they fought one after another until there was only 1 guy left. They didn't have any BS stoppages back then or rounds. They just fought until it was over.
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6-02-2008 @ 7:20AM
Andrew said...
Those days sucked because the 2 guys at the end were completely exhausted so the final fight was always a let-down.
6-02-2008 @ 8:58AM
eric f. said...
What they hell were they thinking no doing something about that dudes disgusting ear balloon before he came out to fight kimbo?
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6-02-2008 @ 10:21AM
The Pepto Pimp said...
Seems like several of you watched it. So let me ask this, if (when) CBS broadcasts another Elite XC fight, will you watch it?
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6-02-2008 @ 11:11AM
TvLover said...
This "experiment" on CBS was, to put it simply, disastrous. Treating the public like a bunch of morons doesn't help when you are trying to gain viewership. I will stick with WEC, UFC, and EliteXC on Showtime. Screw CBS
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