For some time now, at least some members of the press and other media outlets have had an early copy of the fourth season premiere of Battlestar Galactica. This season, however, Sci Fi has made everyone sign and adhere to an embargo agreement, making us keep our traps shut about anything at all to do with the screener until today.I'm not going to reveal what I consider spoilers here, though I will warn you that I will discuss some key plot points below. Consider yourself warned.
Firstly I will say that fans clearly won't be disappointed with the episode, though it may bother some in how they split it into two parts. According to the screener, this episode is titled 'He That Believeth in Me' -- I wonder if using "that" rather than "who" is purposeful.
Here's a quick bullet list of things to expect from the episode:
- When last we left the series, Lee (and we) saw what we thought was impossible -- Starbuck is alive. Not only that, but the Cylons are all over the Galactica's business. And we pick right up from there, that very second.
- There's a lot of discussion aboard the Galactica as to the condition of Starbuck's Viper, both inside and out. The speculations among fans will fly from this for sure.
- Starbuck's return is obviously not settling quite well with the rest of the crew. She goes over all of the possibilities herself, what she is, who she is.
- Early on there's an amazing scene with Tigh in the CIC. You'll certainly know it when you see it.
- During the battle early on, Anders has a close moment with a Cylon Raider, one that will give you chills and which leaves us with no doubts about certain aspects of his character.
- We see what I saw on my set visit, the shrine to Baltar. Life's good for Baltar, that much is clear.
- To everyone else, Starbuck was gone for months, though that's not how she's perceived it.
- Opening credits show the population at 39,698.
- We're not allowed to mention the final fifteen minutes of the episode at all.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
3-31-2008 @ 12:47AM
Jeff said...
*giggles*
How long has it been? I can't wait! I've made sure that everyone knows to leave me alone on Friday night.
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3-31-2008 @ 1:24AM
Rodney said...
"I wonder if using "that" rather than "who" is purposeful."
Wow, if it's not TV, you guys know nothing about it. I'm not a Bible scholar or even a believer, but even I know that's a direct quote from the Bible, King James Version, John 11:25.
Even if you're not into religion, it has a lot of things that educated people have been alluding to for almost 400 years, since this version was published in 1611. You should check it out. Might clear up all kinds of puzzles for you.
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3-31-2008 @ 12:50PM
Rob said...
Rodney,
Don't be such a tool. I'm sure Keith is perfectly aware that it's a biblical reference. Heck,.. at least half of BSG has some religious undertones.
What Keith was trying to show was the difference between the title "He That Believeth in Me" versus the common reference of John 11:25 (NIV) "He WHO Believeth in Me" - the 'that'/'who' being the curious question.
I understand that the KJV of the Bible shows it as "that", but the NIV is generally more common these days because it's easier to read and it uses "who".
FWIW, I think Keith is reading too much into it, but it's a good question nonetheless.
3-31-2008 @ 2:22AM
Phish said...
ok so just to recap, who are the final 5 again?
i know they revealed 4 of em, but i forgot.
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3-31-2008 @ 3:16AM
xnifex said...
the 4 are Saul Tigh, Anders, Chief Turol, & the president's aide (forgot her name)
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3-31-2008 @ 3:55AM
Franklin said...
Re: The Fifth and Final Cylon
Supposedly, the cast now know who the Final Cylon is, and most of them were surprised. Possibilities (in no particular order):
1. Zarek. He was a terrorist in his younger years. (This would tie in with the fact that the four Cylons aboard Galactica were leaders of the resistance on New Caprica.)
2. Billy. This could be considered a "surprise" -- to have this actor reappear for the last remaining episodes.
3. Lee. Yes, Lee Adama has a father, Bill Adama. But maybe some contrived situation happened to young Bill Adama which involved the Cylons taking his DNA to create Lee(s?). This could possibly start to tie in with the flashbacks of young Bill we were shown in BSG: Razor. So we might be seeing more flashbacks in Season 4.
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3-31-2008 @ 11:48AM
bsgfan2003 said...
I am quite interested in finding out more about Kara's father. We know he was a pianist. Did she know him? If not:
What if Kara is the first hybrid, not Hera?
Can Tigh play a mean piano?
I know it sounds insane, but I'm having lots of fun with crazy theories in anticipation of the final season ;)
4-01-2008 @ 4:02PM
numbrunner said...
Zarek sounds like a good choice(plus in a way it would tie together the old series and the new in a rather elegant way(rebirth of humanity and the evolution from cylon/human breeding). I can't believe Lee Adama is the 5th since he was in the Last supper picture. He was, however, sitting in the same seat that Judas sat in in Davinci's painting. I don't think the 5th will be anyone who has been resurrected yet either (yes is would be a shocker, but none of the others has died).
To Franklin: Leoben was full of shit when he told her that. Frankly (no pun intended) I think he could tell that she was going to kill him and it seemed like he knew it was coming (see how he looked around at his surroundings and smirked. It was as much as she had seen it in her visions) and he said that just to screw with her. I think he wanted her to mistrust him or prolong her unease with him so she'd go to Kobol for the Tomb of Athena.
My only pure source of confusion at this point is who or what is the 13th person/cylon? There has to be one as they clearly noted that the "Temple of the 5" were disciples of the one who isn't named or some kind of heretic god?!?!?! I'd guess Baltar and he is either the human prophet of the 13th god, or he's the character that will help to rip the Cylon factions apart. (you saw him appear in 6's head last season).
3-31-2008 @ 5:58AM
Lykan said...
I can't wait for this premier!! It has been so long since the end of last season that feels like I will have to review some of the Season 3 episodes.
About the 4th Cylon her name is Tory Foster and she's the presidents' aide since Season 2.
About the 5th Cylon I have no clue but at some moments I thought it was Adama itself.
http://www.fallensword.com/?ref=134847
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3-31-2008 @ 9:16AM
Josh said...
So I think Galactica and the the cylons make it to earth by the end of the show, but earth is not populated. Its an empty world and somehow the cylons and the humans make a truce and start a new life and we basically get Adam and Eve and all of our culture is based on them. A great last shot of the last episode would be present day and people finding the remains of a viper.
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3-31-2008 @ 1:44PM
DaveTehWave said...
That would be too 'Hollywood' of an ending.
I'm sure the writers will leave us speechless and wanting more.
3-31-2008 @ 9:53AM
0megapart!cle said...
Can't wait!! There are so much pent up expectations for this season that I worry that all will be disappointed in some way. It has to be perfect to live up in my eyes!
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3-31-2008 @ 12:59PM
Rob said...
I am so frustrated!!! I wait however long it's been and now, just when it's coming back, I have to leave for a month long trip to Egypt. I wonder how the internet connection is over there. Does Sci-Fi post BSG shows on their site? Thank the gods for DVR's.
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3-31-2008 @ 1:05PM
Oreo said...
"Early on there's an amazing scene with Tigh in the CIC. You'll certainly know it when you see it."
Yeah they showed that on the commercials.
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3-31-2008 @ 11:39PM
Stu said...
So I've been kicking this around in my head about the un-named Cylon. I don't recall what episode it was, but Kyra was interrogating a captured Cylon aboard Galactica. Towards the end of this encounter the President comes in and talks to him about the nuclear warhead. The Cylon whispers to her that Adama is a Cylon, thus causing paranoia etc, etc, What if, the Adama he was referring to was the one Adama we have not seen. The son, the brother, the ex, the deceased Adama. Just a thought...
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4-01-2008 @ 4:07AM
Franklin said...
Hmmm, good catch. Does anybody know what was the line Leoben said to Roslyn? Was it exactly: "Adama is a Cylon"? If he did not refer to "Adama" by the first name at all, then he could have been referring to either Lee or his deceased brother.
4-02-2008 @ 9:22AM
numbrunner said...
I just can't see it as the foundation of Our civilization. So all the black people inhabited africa and asian looking people inhabited asia with gaita and tory running hand in hand for the asian sub continent. No this is either not our universe or this happens long after current earth.
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4-02-2008 @ 9:38PM
cineribus said...
All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again. Humans , in the battlestar world, have lived in cycles. They were thrust from Kobol, and settled in the 12 colonies. Caprica, Gemenon, Aralon, Tauron, etc. In the episode "Home," while standing on the surface of Earth and looking at the constellations of those colonies, Roslin calls them by their "ancient" names; Capricorn, Gemini, Aries, Taurus, etc. If we assume that this episode was written with the end-game of the series in mind, which we should because these folks almost always have the end-game in mind, we might be able to assume that this is happening in our future. We left earth, found Kobol, left Kobol, found colonies, left Colonies to return to earth. What we find when we get there though... The cylon homeworld? Were the cylons the 13th tribe?
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