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As much as I want this show to end (for closure), I sure am going to miss it when it's gone.

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"is there something on that tape that leads David to break it off with Ellen?"

David told Ellen "We're done" before Katie went to him with the tape.

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It seemed like the script was very specific to have Patty acknowledge the blackmail -- and conduct that would get here disbarred -- to Ray. That plus the fact that Ray left the room briefly before he came back in made me immediately wonder whether he recorded the conversation, stuck the tape in an envelope and dropped it in a mail chute before he came back in and killed himself. There may not be enough time left in the series to do anything with that, but the story left open the possibility.

I also wonder why the script included the scene where Ray told his wife to pack their bags because they were leaving the country in the morning. I assume that was to show that he changed his mind about fleeing and decided to kill himself, but I don't really know what made him change his mind. Was he hoping Patty would back off the blackmail threat?

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I assumed David breaks up with Ellen because she decides to go back to work for Patty. During the flashback of the breakup fight in one of the earlier episodes, David made a comment that "it's Patty or me" or something to that effect.

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Maybe the "real estate typcoons" that David found in Ellen and his apartment were not send by Patty as they stated, but sent by Frobisher with the Patty Hewes cover story. I'm sure they were planting bugs all over. Why would Patty want to bug Ellen's apartment?

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you forgot one point that i thought was important, she finally met the son. i always thought the person she killed was the son but she never saw the person she killed before so it couldn't have been the son. blast! my theory is destroyed. GREAT episode btw. i haven't been blown away with the last couple but this was fantastic. can't wait for the payoff. and i wonder if damages will be a patty hewes vehicle with a different story revolving around her/her cases - and by vehicle i probably mean what will happen next season (and on the off chance its renewed again).

this show needs more sex/attractive people to last on fx.

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My thoughts off this episode are:

Patty is not behind David's murder or the attempt on Ellen's life. The blood on her shoe is from Ray Fiske's suicide. This must have been what Tom was talking about when he tells the jailed Ellen "Ray Fiske really got to her."

The knock on the door that David answer's, presumably the killer at the door - was that Katie coming to him with the tape? I don't think so actually, I think it really is the killer and his call before it happens the one where he says "I'm sorry, please call me" is to Ellen after he sees Gregory's tape and realizes she was right to go after these bastards.

Is Lila a red herring? That one still baffles me. Anyone have thoughts on that?

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Well, I thought I had this thing figured out but now I'm totally confused. I always thought Lila was a red herring but then she shows up again.

The body count is piling up: David, Ray, Moore, Hit woman, Gregory, person that Ellen kills....Are there no cops in the city??

It's unclear who planted the bugs but whoever it was would know about Gregory's tape because David watches it.

I still think the son is significant or we would not have been introduced to his character. I also still don't trust Tom.

Anyone else think the dark haired female lawyer is the plant in Patty's firm? Every time they ask if she's done whatever job they gave her to do she says...oh, next on my list.

Can't wait for the pieces to come together.

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Why Lila IS David's killer:

She's a stalker kook, who certainly seems like the type who would kill a guy in a "If I can't have you, no one can!" kind of fit.

He's killed in the bathtub, the same place she found David and Ellen making love during her first stalker break-in. Symbolic!

Why would they keep her around this long if she had nothing to do with it?

Why Lila ISN'T David's killer:

Nothing on the show is coincidental. That David would be killed the same night that Ellen has a knife-wielding muderer come after her - well, hmmmm, seems a little fishy, doesn't it? And we know that the person who went after Ellen is male, and someone Ellen never saw before, so it couldn't have been Lila.

The apartment is most likely bugged, so if David viewed Gregory's tape, which we know from the coming attractions he did, then someone might have a good reason to come to retrieve it, and get rid of the person who viewed it 'cause dead men tell no tales. On the other hand, Katie lives and she's the one who bought David the tape. Hmmmmmm....

If the person knocking on the door is the killer, it's probably not Lila, 'cause as we know she has a key and isn't at all shy about just letting herself in.

Of course, there is the theroy that Lila is an agent of either Patty or Frobisher, but I consider that highly unlikely because she's too much of a crazy loose cannon to be of any real use to either of them.

Ah, can't wait to find out how this all ends up!

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With Moore and Fiske with bullets in their heads, who else but Frobisher is going to be blamed for such a "coincidence"? I think Fiske's lawfirm is behind everything...they were in too deep and won't be able to save their reputation...unless they make it look like Frobisher is a murderer and subsequently drop him as a client. Remember Patty said something like criminal takes precedence when it comes to trials after Ellen suggested they go after Moore. Maybe when Fiske left Patty's office, he ran into his "shadow" from his lawfirm.

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I really hope the writers don't try and pull a shocker by making David "bad" in any sense -- hooked in with Frobisher, Ray's law firm, Patty -- and explain that he got killed for not following directions, blowing his cover, etc. There's been no set-up for that.

I do, though, expect that the producers have a twist up their sleeves.

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I'm as confused as everyone else. Frobisher has to be behind it all, its the only answer. Unless Lila managed to hire a guy to whack Ellen, then again who cleaned up the mess at Patty's place. I think there was a hit put out on Patty and Ellen, Patty found out and fled, Ellen in Patty's apartment was attacked by one hitman, while David was killed by the hitman meant for Ellen.

Also last night's ending literally made my jaw drop and I hope this show comes back. Too bad I thought Ray would change his identity and become an Idaho senator in the end. Guess I was wrong.

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My Hypo:

Frobisher plants the bugs, the apartment goons where Frobisher's, not Patty's. David watches the tape. That's how Frobisher learns of it. He kills David and attempts to kill Ellen because they both know about it. Patty fits in there some how, not quite sure.

Why do they hid Ray's body? That is what appears to happen next week. Because then Patty would have to explain why Ray killed himself in her office? And she doesn't want stuff coming out about Ray and Gregory?

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FYI from Tuesday's L.A. Times:

Interestingly, the show's writers scrapped their original plan for how to wrap up the current season as the series progressed, even changing who will ultimately emerge as the killer (or is it killers?).

"You inevitably find that you have to make adjustments," Landgraf said. "This is what really good show runners do: They think through everything, then they leave their minds open to a better solution."

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I love this show, but all the switching of time frames does confuse me. I always tape the show, intending to re-watch it but I usually don't get around to it.

One thing I thought was interesting was the scene between Ray and Gregory. Obviously, Ray wanted to be with Gregory (not to get too graphic) but Greg resisted. I was sure all alongthat they had been together, so I wonder if they did later on. That scene was suppose to be early in the show, right? Probably thinking too much about it.

I am sorry to see Ray go. I thought he was a really interesting character.

I'm beginning to wonder if Damages is going to suufer the Lost syndrome, should we see a second season. I love Lost and have watched every episode, sort of a fanactic, but there's no denying that the show really weakened in the first part of the second season. Some people say it was never as good as the first season; I disagree, I think it recovered nicely later on. But I fear that burden for Damages. Let's hope I'm wrong.

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It is a riveting series. But, I enjoy watching Glenn Close, a great actor. I believe that Frobisher was behind killing David, that makes sense and maybe I didn't see where Katy dropped off the tape. Since that happened then it makes sense that Frorbisher had to get that tape back at any cost. I'm not totally convinced about Patty not having any guilt here. One episode Moore said to Ellen that there is someone in your firm that has their hand in Frobishers pockets. I wondered about that comment because I think I knew more and was killed because he knew. So, it leads me to believe could it be Patty or Tom? Then I wonder about the son that maybe stretching things here.
I think Patty flees because Ray was the scapegoat for her. And now that he is gone and you begin to see a confident, strong willed woman falling apart in fear. What does she know? And why would Ellen say, "I know things that would destroy Patty?"

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