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Regarding: "We know Greg (Katie's Florida fling) is now married and became some kind of consultant. While Tom hasn't found anything yet, I'm sure there's a Frobisher connection buried in there somewhere."

No one has investigated Greg's wife. Perhaps SHE's the one that is connected to Frobisher.

Interesting series, but it needs something more to keep me tuned it. I'll watch next week but if it's like this week's episode...

Morjana

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I can't help but think about The Nine when I watch Damages. I mean, eventually I am gonna get sick of the now vs. then flashbacks/forwards.

For now, it's okay, but I just need them to focus on how the fiance (or not) gets killed. DO NOT [!] take me into a season finale still wondering what happened. The Nine tried that.

But the suspense was a bit lower this episode. I was sure the husband's car was going to explode.

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I actually like how we don't have someone to root for, other than Ellen. It makes it more middle of the road, more real.

Not many people in Frobisher or Pattys positions are truly evil. They do evil things, but for non-evil reason. Patty may stoop to anything to win a case, including hurting and manipulating people, and even ruining a few lives. Those are evil acts, but she feels a few ruined lives is worth helping hundreds of clients whose life savings was thrown away. That doesn't make it better, but she is doing what she thinks is best, as misguided as it is. Frobisher obviously loves his kids, and did what he thought was best for him and his family, even that means ruining many of his employees lives. These are real people who do bad things, not heartless evil people who do no good.

I do agree I wasn't as dissapointed when the show was over (in a good way, I wanted to see more) than I was the first episodes when I couldn't wait till next week. But in the scenes for future episodes we see Katie say something to the police telling them to "talk to Patty Hewes". That could be interesting.

And finally, I have a feeling their son has something to do with it, there is a reason they focused on him this week, and I don't think it was to humanize Patty. Maybe her son kills Ellens fiance?

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I agree. The show kinda lost its mojo this week.

The thing I like about this show is that it seems to give you only what is needed to drive the plot forward. Nothing extra.

But this week blows that idea away. Unless, of course, these extra nuggets of information actually add to what we are going to see next.

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Toomey, I have to agree with you on one thing: This episode lacked "something" that was there in the first two. I don't know what it was exactly, but the tone was definitely different.

I think you are wrong, though, in assuming the son won't have anything to do with the story going forward.

Technically speaking, I was bothered by the outdoor scene with Katie and Greg -- the sound was off, or maybe it was a bad re-dub. Did anyone else notice?

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Am I the only one that thinks Ellen was some sort of plant? Patty expects her first year lawyer to write a crappy brief and Tom says it was basically perfect. I think these first few episodes are slight of hand and many characters will turn out to be other than what we expexted.

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"When does Arthur finally become the bad guy? Or maybe he doesn't? If that's the case, when does Patty become the bad guy?"

I kinda figured that when she had a dog killed and he took out a hit, it was firmly established that they are both the bad guys.

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I really love this show but everytime I think about it the first thing that comes to mind is how it reminds me of The Devil Wears Prada but in a lawyer's world.

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Patty can't be the bad guy because she loves her husband, and gets upset when he's in a car accident? People aren't that black and white.

I'm enjoying seeing two potential "bad guys" on TV who actually have shades of grey. These are three dimensional characters, rather than the ridiculous stereotypes we see more often on TV and in movies. I don't want to see Patty lose all her humanity. Where's the conflict there? What would be interesting about that?

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Maybe i am missing something but aren't we supposed to be rooting for Ellen? Frobisher is sleazy even without the theft and Patty is just as bad. She is playing major head games with Ellen including having the judge's secretary keep her there when she was supposed to be at her engagement party. I say games because the tactic did not gain her anything.

I kind of thought the Frobisher actually did mail the grenade and the son latched onto the idea and put the one in the car. Didn't Patty say something about a kid being able to buy "a grenade" singular and not "grenades"?

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In the flash back at the end, where we learned a little bit more about the murder, you see a dog barking, and I'm 90% sure that it is Patty's dog. The same one she had in the office, and the same one she had at the park.

And can I just point out, that the relationship she has with her husband is so far off the mark from reality, that it is shameful. She fires employees who take personal time off, after a bomb scare. She claims that Ellen isn't really dedicated, so the fact that she has a real relationship with her husband is pretty corny to me. And the son with the bombs was totally predictable, as was Patty being responsible for killing Saffron. If you've seen any of the ALIAS episodes, you would be figuring this show out. I like it, but still predictable. We'll see what tonight brings.

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anyone know what kind of car patty's husband was driving (crashing)?

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