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Who was disappointed with the last season of The Shield? I want names.

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"...completely averse to the idea of retirement."

Not "adverse," "averse."

'Averse' normally refers to people and means 'having a feeling of distaste or aversion'; ...'adverse' normally does not refer to people but to things that are antagonistic or contrary to someone’s interests.

I know I've said this before, and I'm not going to start another rant, but you guys need a copyeditor.

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Where did this come from? Totally shocking.Where's he being layed out?

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When they kept cutting to Jerry I thought he was going to have a heart attack or something. I didn't expect him to blow his head off. I think I had a "holy shit" expression on my face all through the commercials.

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Jerry is dead!

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06282007/tv/lights_out_tv_adam_buckman.htm

I was disapoointed with The Shield. Season was too short, and when I found out there was like one episode left, I wasn't like "I can't wait to see what happens" more like "Huh? Really?"

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when i saw him grooming himself and still fully dressed (looking good) i knew the gun was coming out. its standard tv fare for male suicide.

but saying that, i dont think hes dead. either that or they cut the preview for the next episode to make it seem that way. or they dont know yet. im still confused

and i agree, show me a person upset with the last season of the shield and i'll show you a person who is a complete idiot.

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guess i was wrong. very wrong.

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about the chief, not about the shield

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This is still my favorite show on TV right now. That being said, I really miss the old Tommy. I think a little bit of me died inside when he kept backing down and was afraid of that one guy at the restaurant. Not to mention him watching Oprah and using face cream... I want the old bad ass, dark Tommy back.

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I think this episode was mostly about character changes. You see Franco, the man-whore, starting to seriously considering settling down with Natalie. You got Tommy, who backs down from a fight, passes on the champagne (and still not smoking) which is a real turn from his normal character. You also see the Chief moving away from his normal life which results in his death. This whole episode was to show the changes these characters go through as their lives progress. I have a feeling though that we will see a lot more changes but then a return to some old, bad habits. Even Uncle Teddy was having a hard time with change - he can't adjust to life outside the pen. This is by far my favorite TV series and I think it just keeps getting better!!

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Is anyone else suspicious of Shiela's 'volly'? I'm pretty sure he's working for either the insurance company or the fire department, trying to get information out of her.

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I think Sheila's volly is after the widow money. Maybe he's an investigator, but there's no way Sheila would tell her new boyfriend about the roofies and viagra business with Tommy.

That last scene with Janet and the baby (Pukeface? has there been any other name given?) makes me worried for both of them.

I keep wondering if the Mike/Probie character will get more developed or if he's just for comic relief. There was potential for development after the dinner with Tommy (Mike:"You could call it a bromance if you wanted." funniest line of the episode) and being pushed to respect his mom's final wish, but then he ultimately fails. I can't figure out if this will make him more 'complex' or if it's just another thing he gets wrong as the resident bonehead.

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while the whole scene with the chief screams "suicide coming" in retrospect, i actually thought it was going to be a heart attack, mainly because of the comment from the guy at hq earlier in the show, "you can run a goddamned marathon, then have a heart attack clipping your toe nails." but the suicide makes more sense.

and i hope to god they don't pull some cheap trick and bring him back. he was a great character, but if he can't be "the chief", then let him go with what he considered to be dignity.

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while the suicide certainly makes sense, i actually thought he was going to have a heart attack. especially when he started cutting his nails...the guy at hq told him "you can run a god-damned marathon then have a heart attack clippin' your toe nails". although looking back on the buildup, not realizing that the suicide was coming makes me feel a touch dense.

i certainly hope they don't try some trick to make it an unsuccessful attempt. if the chief can't be the chief, then let him go with what he perceives as dignity.

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During that scene with Janet and the baby I thought she was going to start shaking it. I was like, "nooooo...don't do it".

And with Jerry I kept telling my roommate "He's gonna kill himself! He's gonna kill himself!" That was so sad. He will be missed. But I also thought it was strange that they didn't mention anything about it in the previews for next time. I wonder if they don't find him for a while or what. Most likely, they just want to keep us wondering.

I loved when Tommy busts into Prick Jagger's house and his daughter is in her underwear and he warns Garrity NOT to put her in his "spank bank".

I was a little suspicious of the "volly" too. He seemed like he was either digging for information on the fire or he just wants to bang one of Tommy Gavin's women for notoriety.

I too was a little disappointed when Tommy backed down from the jealous guy at the restaurant. I was expecting some loud Irish music to come on and some ass kicking to commence!

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I just started watching Rescue Me - the season premier was my first episode - and I am so hooked!!! This is some freakin' great television!!!

Rescue Me achieves the same thing as The Riches - shifting effortlessly between dark and light, tragedy and humor, and I think that's what makes both shows so incredibly realistic. And even though I've only seen like 3 episodes, I was SO sad when the chief killed himself. I agree with publius - I think he was the chief or he was nothing.

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"How long before Tommy realizes Janet is going through post-partum?"

What are the chances she does an "Andrea Yates" on the baby? I thought it was going to happen prior to the end of this episode.

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i hope they dont go to the post-partum route they already copped out with this whole sucide storyline. Jerry would not have done that. at least no at this point. they should have left him left the show with grace and retired to some depressing AZ retirement home.

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i am sitting here shaking my head, but not at jerry's suicide. i'm astonished that so many people have been raving about this show. it's flat-out wretched.

there is not one character who talks or acts like an actual human being. the humor is forced and unfunny because it's so artificial. mostly, it's denis leary's ego on overdrive -- we have to sit there for an hour while watching him act out fantasies about getting beautiful woman after beautiful woman and playing fireman in between.


the women are, down to the very last one, shrill and unsympathetic. and leary's character is worst of all: there is NOTHING sympathetic about him.

with tony soprano, you had real complexity. he could do these heinous things, but then do something extraordinarily human. that's what people are really like. shades of gray are realistic.


there is also a pretty good rule of thumb in most good fiction. your protagonist doesn't have to be liked, but he must be likable. that is, make him caddish, make him evil, but make him someone you can actually relate to and care about. that way, when he does something awful, it resonates because you, the viewer/reader, are so torn.

leary has turned his character into a one-note guy -- he lies badly, postures and occasionally throws a punch. he insults and mistreats everyone. there's nothing human there. there's nothing remotely sympathetic. i keep watching, and with each passing episode i just feel he's a bigger prick than in the one before. that's just not enough to build a show on.

archie bunker was a prick but with underlying humanity.
tony soprano and vic mackey, same thing.
the characters on Lost: remarkably shaded/nuanced.
Battrlestar Galactica: this week's villain could be next week's savior. Every character is a mix of good and bad impulse.

Rescue Me is a boy's club. it's a juvenile, one-note cartoon. get over it.

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I'm pretty sure.. that Rescue has 'jumped the shark' with this one. I honestly think that Denis Leary's ego has taken over. C'mon all these beautiful women throwing themselves at this man??.. Alcoholic, maniac, anger issues, has a family, foul mouthed and let's face it.. a little deranged. Not in this lifetime. The man is not scary looking.. but he's no George Clooney either. I believe that poor Denis is just playing out his fantasies.. until the network pulls the plug.

One who knows..

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