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The similarity b/t the encounters of Naomi and Mrs Klugh with Mikhail got me thinking right from the start that something was a lil off with our friend (foe?) from above.

Erin, you make a damn good point about how she only spoke english when Mikhail was gone, when she easily could have before that. But then maybe English isn't her first language, so when shes in distress (ie, dying from a branch in her lung) she reverts to her native tongue...but she spoke Italian first, then when she found out Hurley could pick up on that, she switched off to an Asian language, then to Portuguese...very suspicious...

At this point, I'm skeptical of her, but I think we'll have to wait for them to get back to camp and her to recover before we'll find out anything more. And it probably won't happen this wk, or next, as we have 'The Brig' and 'The Man Behind the Curtain' on deck, which are heavily Locke/Sawyer/Ben/Dharma centric.

And I have a quick theory about the plane wreckage. Remember in Season 1, Jack burned the fuselage, and then it was swept out to sea by the tide. The cabin was nearly full of bodies, and this section of the plane could have been recovered, and with the condition of the bodies within, all crispy, the rescuers could have assumed the entire plane went up in the same manner and the rest of the survivors, outside the crispy fuselage ppl, are simply lost at sea.

I think the bottom line of that reveal is that rescue is NOT coming, as the outside world thinks they're dead.

Unless of course she is an Other and the whole wreckage found thing is a gigantic mindfuck to break the Losties spirits...and as we've found with Ben, a mindfuck from the Others is always a distinct possibility...

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@ RedStarRevolution

actually, Spanish is the part Hurley was able to pick up.

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great way to end an episode. i wasn't feeling it that much throughout the episode (sun/jin just dont do it for me) but that end really excited me. And now that i know she actually said "im not the only one" its even better. The previews for next weeks episode look promising but i have a feeling its all just a tease.

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Just my own reaction to Naomi's reveal that everyone thinks 815's passengers are all dead: Wouldn't the Dharma Foundation have wanted to keep searchers from even coming close to the island? Why wouldn't they have planted evidence or faked finding the wreckage? I think the Dharma gang wants the world to think our castaways are dead... which means they would have killed Jack instead of letting him go.

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#5 - so does that mean they killed Michael and Walt, too?

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For now, can we call Naomi our frenemy?

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Have you guys forgotten that Mikhail went from dead to undead? That seems a bit fishy right there. That even brings me back to season 1 when Jack saw his dad roaming around the island.

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Devin, from what we know, the Dharma group was not the one holding Jack. They were the ones that fought with the Dharma group and took over their stations.

In any event, Whoever Ben works for, we do know that he must have substantial resources. It would be pretty difficult to fool inspectors with fake bodies, what with DNA testing and all. Not to mention having a fake plane stand up to the scrutiny of NTSB inspectors or AUstralias version of it. Instead it would be easier to bribe or blackmail the inspectors into filing a false report saying they had conclusive DNA proof, but the bodies were damaged beyond recognition.

I'm wondering if Mikhail was dead to begin with. It's not like Kate and Sayid had him hooked up to monitoring machines. They did a quick pulse check. His body wasn't electrocuted, but attacked with sonics, so maybe it just knocked him into deep unconsciousness.

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ja, I think michael is dead (walt brain washed? or dead) and they would have killed freckles and sawyer --- but Jack they could use...hmmm....
Naomi... I think they want you to guess and hold your interest through May sweeps and some type of a season cliff hanger... develop some love triangles, hate the Others more, but the mysterious plot seems gone and LOST has lost some of its magic --- The black smoke is almost cartoon like, the numbers do not seem important, what about the ship with dynamite? we know who the others are and they are doing some type of unauthorized research, and please not another twist of who knows who before the crash--- ho-hum.
Maybe 2 half hour episodes instead of an hour so you do not get as much info or even develop 2 seperate story lines interacting with each other... or one more love story the other more adventure/survival.... I want credit if this happens! hee hee!

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The speaking of multiple languages goes back as far as season one when Danielle was interrogating Sayid. So if there's something to be said for these multilingual encounters let's not leave the crazy French chick out of the equation.

Naomi may have been carrying that photo because the others were building a dossier on Desmond. Just as they had constructed dossiers of the crash victims through Mikhail. Perhaps they've only recently become aware of the identity of the man in the hatch? They took possession of Desmond's sailboat not so long ago. —and that was after the sky turned purple; after all their communication links went down.

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Well you also have to think that the island heals people rather quickly like Mikhail said after he fixed up Naomi so when he was zapped by the fence maybe he never died just got injured very badly but since the island heals you quickly he was able to regain his strength, cuz if you look at him in the last episode he doesn't look like he's in great shape.

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Honestly, I knew Mikhail was lying about what she said... However... my first reaction to Naomi's multi-lingual distress was just that: she was in distress, dying, knew she was screwed over. I don't believe she had any real idea about where she was, exactly. She's trained to be multi-lingual, and I feel that maybe she was speaking random languages in hopes someone around her would understand one of them.
Perhaps when she was less on death's door she could compose herself better?

We'll see, regardless!

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What I see as important is the last Desmond episode as it relates to all this.

The monk who took him in and threw him out told him about some "other destiny". Is this guidance counselor talk, or does he know something? Do we really think it was accidental that he found Desmond at his low point, took him in (an alcoholic in a vinery? C'MON) and then threw him out? And his ex-fiance's brother "finding" him - I figure they called him and told him where he was to instigate the crisis that would cause him to run back to his beloved booze and in turn get "thrown out", coincidentally at the same time that Penny would be picking up her daddy's wine.

How many rich girls do you know who would invite a perfect stranger along for a ride, one who just got thrown out of a monastery. Why did he get thrown out - Doesn't that concern her?

Something tells me this was all set up by Penny's dad, who I bet turns out to be the big boss to whom all the Others (including Ben) answer. Why? There's something special about Desmond.

I'll bet Penny fell in love with Desmond and stopped him from moving along whatever path her daddy had st out for him, and he was trying to pry them apart to, well, I'll assume get him to the island. Why not just abduct him? Perhaps Desmond's ability precludes this, or would be affected by it.

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I think Naomi works for Penny Widmore, but also works for her dad, Mr. Widmore , who I believe is indeed Alvar Hanso (Hanso is a rich philanthropist, and aside from Sun's father, Widmore is the only person on the show that has a lot of money to fund such a project). Thus Naomi is probably serving a dual purpose. She is probably there to find Desmond, but is probably trying to do so through the help of her colleagues on the Island, the Others. This would explain why she seemed like an Other, but also had a pic of Desmond.

The thought also occurred to me that Mr. Widmore/Hanso sponsored that ship race around the world with the hope that Desmond would try for it, and perhaps the race was setup in a way that he had a high probability of reaching the island, thus getting "lost" and being out of his daughter's life for good. Penny is obviously at odds with her father over her relationship with Desmond, which would explain why she doesn't know where the Island is, but knows it exists, thus she is able to look for it in the first place. You don't set up a research lab in the middle of a blizzard without knowing what you are looking for. And it was obvious the Portuguese researchers that worked for Penny knew they were looking for a magnetic anomaly. That would be a pretty specific thing for Penny to look for without her having some involvement with or knowledge of the Island/Hanso Foundation/Dharma Initiative.

Thus Penny used a Widmore employee (Naomi) to find Desmond. And that's why Naomi is probably neither a friend nor a foe. Thoughts?

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#10 Iver I'm just glad you aren't a writer for Lost because your post was making no sense at the end. I was very glad to find out all this information because I don't speak the other languages. I found it very helpful to have the material translated. And even more helpful that the auther of the article pointed out that Naomi spoke four other languages before finally speaking English with Hurley at the end of the episode. I didn't pick up on that and it really just showed me that Lost is very much still on top of it's game. I thought the episode was really quite good anyway, but now, after finding this stuff out which I didn't pick up on the first time I just have to say bravo to the writers, they still continue to stick in creative twists that go right over my head. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot have gone over your head as well, based on your post it's pretty obvious you don't know what you're talking about. lol! Thanks Erin for the article I found it very insightful!!

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@14...

You spoke about the monk who took Desmond in. Did anyone mention anything yet about the picture on the monk's desk? It was a picture of him and the woman who was working in the jewelry store in the earlier Desmond flashback!

There's more going on here than meets the eye.

@everyone:

How could the world have found any kind of plane wreckage, unless the pilots of 815 were in on it?

Remember, very early in season 1 it was established that they were at least 1000 miles off course. I don't think burnt-out hulls and dead bodies can survive salt water travelling that far.

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Not that I agree with what I'm about to say but for the D-A's perspective, couldn't the multi languages be explained by a) Spanish is her first language. b) she switched to chinese after seeing an Asian man (Jin) close by. (Not sure at the brink of death you're going to take a chance a dude's Korean if you know Chinese.)

Me and all my Lost-loving co-workers have been wondering what would come of Penny's search team from the end of S2.

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Okay, but if she was speaking the different languages on purpose so that no one would understand her, why not just stop talking period? I think she was trying to communicate... I'm just not sure why she didn't try english first since they were already speaking it.

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