Those are the latest rumors spreading around the internets and the industry, that The CW has all but canceled the cult favorite Veronica Mars and that CBS is going to give a surprising second season renewal to Jericho, which looked like it might be dead in the water.
USA Today is reporting that a really good source is saying that Veronica Mars is "all but dead." Critic Robert Bianco says that fellow writer Gary Levin says the show is gone and he's "almost always right about these things." I think any buzz that the show might have had a year or so ago is now dead and a renewal is unlikely. (Isabelle talked about this last month, too.)
As for Jericho, SyFyPortal says that not only will CBS renew the drama, but it will move it to a new night in the fall to get it away from American Idol. Time will tell. The networks reveal their new schedules next month.
[via TV Tattle]















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4-17-2007 @ 4:03PM
Viv said...
Jericho deserves a chance. It is so much better than the media darling lost.
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4-17-2007 @ 4:11PM
ac said...
If this is true The CW deserves to fail. They've replaced a great show with some Pussy Doll crap. Congrats your like FOX 10 years ago.
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4-17-2007 @ 4:20PM
Mike said...
I've been watching Jericho since the beginning, and although I can't stand the horrible acting, I can't stop watching because I want to know what happens next!
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4-17-2007 @ 4:24PM
Susan said...
Cancelling a show that has never gotten good ratings but has gone from great to terrible doesn't make the CW deserving of failure, in fact I appluad them for taking off a show that has become a shadow of it's former self and glorifies horrible events.
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4-17-2007 @ 4:28PM
bgdc said...
Let Veronica die. I seriously loved seasons 1 and 2 (2 was the strongest, imho) but season 3 has been weak. The move to various san diego colleges (filmed at UCSD, USD, SDSU and I think I saw some Pt. Loma Nazarene there too) has robbed the show of so much of its charm. College isn't what they're representing it to be and the factions they created are just silly.
Let it die. Like Arrested Development, all the energy spent pining away for the show has become tiresome. It's good; but three years is more than enough.
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4-17-2007 @ 4:48PM
tv junkie said...
The CW putting the Pussycat in Veronica Mars' time slot was such a slap in the face for everything VM stands for.
The season is almost over and CW really didn't deliver any of the fuss it created when a new network was launched. Rating wise, it didn't get any better ranting than WB/UPN anyway. and now they're canceling one of the best shows they've got.
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4-17-2007 @ 5:05PM
Travis Bell said...
I disagree with most of you.
In my opinion, Veronica Mars is only getting better. Seeing the cast finally able to be in situations and locations that suit the actors ages and maturity really opened the show up for me. I have been a huge fan since day 1, but honestly feel the new, older, mature Veronica (and cast) has been more fun to watch.
While I am aware of the rumored "4 years later" scheme that Thomas was cooking up for a potential season 4 is kinda touch and go, atleast that might open the show up to an odler audience which I know isn't really who CW is targetting, but I think it could honestly work.
I guess it's still just a waiting game. I for one, and still hoping for another season.
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4-17-2007 @ 5:14PM
bgdc said...
Older audience? The people i know who are fans of VM are all in their 30s and up. Most kids quite simply wouldn't get most of the show's jokes references.
"Be cool, Soda Pop," isn't exactly a line that would resonate with kids.
VM was great. Near perfect - some bad actors/lines/stories - but Season 3 has been a steady decline. The rape story line was just plain silly and the way the characters reacted to it was beyond painful. Colleges - especially in San Diego where the show is filmed and takes place - simply don't have much of a greek system or really any kind of demonstrating. There are lilith house types roaming the wide open halls of USD or UCSD. Most kids haven't even met the dean at their college or would see a need to. College radio? Yeah, that doesn't really get listened to in the age of the Internet.
I think Rob Thomas creation is fantastic. Veronica Mars as a character is one of the most flawed, amusing, exciting, sad and overall complex characters put on TV ever. She's fantastic. But I don't think Thomas expected to last 3 seasons and he doesn't have the material to keep her going.
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4-17-2007 @ 5:21PM
Mook said...
Based on the campus setting of Veronica Mars and the storylines they've had this year, the horrific, tragic events at Virginia Tech give the CW execs a PR-friendly way of explaining away the cancellation of the show.
That may be a dark, conspiratorial prediction - but hey, this is Hollywood.
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4-17-2007 @ 5:28PM
Bash said...
Yeah but let's face the fact that Veronica would still kick Grey's Anatomy's ass while drunk and blindfolded.
Oh wait. They do. But you know what? On VM they actually _remember_ being hurt by somebody else and can't stand it to be around those who have hurt them compared to a Grey's where it's no problem for you to screw your boss, break up with him, and still work with him two weeks later without any pain or suffering on your part. But when your husband of two weeks dies you are totally screwed up afterwards and behave like a maniac and later on can't go back to work because of all the bad memories. Oh and to later on screw your married best friend.
*beep* all this. Veronica Mars depics something that is so novel-like it hurts. It actually feels like a good read every week. Who cares that the collages in San Diego aren't that way? Most of the cowboy movies featuring Clint Eastwood were filmed in Europe and not in the Utah desert so who gives a *beep* about that? VM is delivering a feeling, an idea, and I friggin like it so much it makes me want to phyically hurt myself knowing that BS like GA and Desperate Housewives as well as Betty are considered a success just because watching them doesn't make you _think_. VM simply isn't a light TV dinner, it's something you have to chew on. Too bad that's too much for people nowadays.
Man. Me angry. :-/
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4-17-2007 @ 5:29PM
Kenban said...
I have to wonder what the channel is really going to have left soon. It sounds like they are moving to a 5 day broadcasting week and just leaving the weekend to the individual stations. Of those 5 days they only have original programming for 2 hours a day.
I expect that we will see several new shows on the schedule for the fall and they better hope something takes off because what little is left is not going to last too many more years.
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4-17-2007 @ 5:42PM
Bash said...
Nah you are forgetting the afternoon WB cartoon blocks. That's still "original", at least in parts *sigh* It's still kind of identifyable but more as "WB" than "The CW".
As long as they keep producing "The Batman" I'm fine with it.
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4-17-2007 @ 5:56PM
bgdc said...
Bash, i agree that it's solid work and better than 99% of everything else on TV. I will miss it. My fiancee is utterly in love with it. But, it's a shadow of what it once was and while still 100% better than most TV, I'm sick of always worrying if it will survive.
And VM does have a novel/book like feel as originally Thomas planned to write a book but ended up making it a show. The carry-through is part of what makes VM special and at the same time inaccessible to most people.
Mook - As for for the Virginia Tech connection - whatever. The two are unrelated. Good grief...fantasy meet reality. Oh wait, they can't as fantasy isn't real!
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4-17-2007 @ 6:14PM
Underseen said...
I am a VM fan, been so since before day one when I saw the screener UPN put out. The rape storyline was way too long and drawn out but the overall show is still good. The concept still has alot of untapped potential that should be taken advantage of. You cant have a massive season long underlying storyline every season because it just isnt reality. Thomas recognizes this and thats why he had the Friends Death in season one, The bus crash in season 2, but this season has tried to split it into multiple cases, ie the death of the dean, the rape case, and the basketball coach death. Ill be unhappy with the cancellation if it proves to be true.
As for the rumor of the 4 years later with Veronica in the FBI, it wouldnt work, atleast in the same way the previous seasons did. The whole dynamic of the show would change. Veronica wouldnt have the same free range she has as a Detective, and id expect atleast half if not all of the other cast to be completely replaced.
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4-17-2007 @ 6:32PM
Jennifer said...
Well, VM was doomed anyway. I was surprised it returned for a second and third seasons, since most shows that I like don't. And while at first I was all, "I'll take this show any way I can, even with a big weird jump in time and situation," now I am leaning towards "just let it go already, rather than bastardize it some more." I think the freaking budget cuts (no regular characters other than Keith/Logan can even BE in more than one episode in awhile any more) hurt it a lot.
*sigh* So it goes.
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4-17-2007 @ 7:30PM
David said...
VM has gotten 3 seasons more than it deserved with it's ratings. The ratings are bad for CW standards and that says something, so time to move on.
Jericho went big to ehh in no time. Everyone was calling it Lost 2 but then the ratings seem to have fallen. I'm a little shocked that it got a second season. What I don't get is that AMerican Idol is on at 9pm now, so what's the issue now? Just make sure to do reruns when AI shows at 8pm Wednesday.
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4-17-2007 @ 7:37PM
Mandy said...
I think if the CW was sure VM wasn't coming back, they would have aired the remaining new episodes in April and then let it die. Instead they saved them for sweeps, so I still have a tiny bit of hope for another season.
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4-18-2007 @ 12:59AM
jk said...
I'm so upset there canceling vm. I hope another network picks it up or at least the "4 yr later plot" happens. And in response to the coment that Veronica mars watchers are in there 30's +...i'm 21 and i've been watching the show since I was 19. I get all the jokes, and so does my dad who watches it with me who is 54 and we both love it. It's too bad that when something that isn't I love new york or the search for the next blah blah, comes on and gives great character's and interesting story line's only makes it 3 seasons.
Ps: aren't there already like 15 members of the pussy cat dolls, do we really need more?
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4-17-2007 @ 10:39PM
Grace said...
I LOVE JERICHO and NEVER miss it. It is exciting and suspenseful and has only gotten better and better with each episode. I LOVE Gerald McRaney and Skeet Ulrich as well.
PLEASE CBS RENEW this great show!
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4-17-2007 @ 11:42PM
Laz said...
@ 4: Susan, what horrible events has VM glorified? Yes, it depicts violent acts, but the focus is on what happens in the wake of violence, not the violent acts themselves. The viewers are left to deal with the aftermath. With the exception of Veroncia being a tad trigger happy with the taser, I see the show as doing the opposite of glorifying the violence it depicts.
And to those who question the depiction of collegiate life in VM: While I attended a large, urban, East Coast university and not a small, Californian liberal arts college, I find the depiction of college life on VM to be surprisingly accurate. At times heightened for television, sure, but very much grounded in reality.
At my school, there was a serious problem with sexual assault on campus and in the surrounding neighborhood. There were multiple major protests (with hundreds of students) in an attempt to force the administration to honestly confront the problem. Students wore red tape for months to signify the difficulties of fighting the bureaucracy when trying to report an assault. Take Back the Night was one of the most visible and vocal groups on Campus with their rallies and marches receiving major coverage in campus news sources. We even had several different organizations that could be considered real-world versions of Lilith House. I understand that each person's college experience is different, but for me and my college friends who are VM-fans, the depiction of college life was on the mark and sometimes scarily accurate.
@ 8: Again, I understand that this is my own experience, but at my school, the main college radio station was quite popular, much discussed, and broadcast from behind the food court. Also, our college dean had a huge cult of personality surrounding him. He came to most major events and even appeared on stage in several campus productions. Everyone knew who he was and students regularly stopped him on campus to introduce themselves or just to say hi.
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