I'm starting to get the feeling that someone over at ABC needs to tell Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse to just shut up. I can't think of any other producers that go so out of their way to be interviewed or speak their mind in the press. And I don't think it's doing the show any favors. The latest example is an interview Lindelof did for Wizard Universe. The problem I see here is that anything that is gained by giving the die-hard fans more of a glimpse at the inner workings of the show is outweighed by the fact that he is just adding fuel to the backlash fire. For example, Damon on why they killed Mr. Eko:
"...it told the audience that, "Yes, we are willing to kill characters that you love as opposed to characters that you just want us to kill, like Shannon and Boone or Ana-Lucia." That was an important thing to do, because I can't think of a character that was more beloved than Mr. Eko..."
Really? So, it's not that Adewale Akinnouye Agbaje wanted to pursue other projects anymore? It was to make a point? And while I can dig that a large fan element wanted Ana-Lucia knocked off, Shannon and Boone? I always got the feeling that Boone was one of the more popular characters, and I thought people had actually started coming around on Shannon before she got shot. I may have just imagined it, but I was under the impression that Shannon and Boone were killed to show that they are "willing to kill characters that you love..." As far as that goes, if you want me to really believe that "anyone" can be killed off, you have to take out Jack, Kate, or Sawyer.
Speaking of the triangle of love, I disagree with Lindelof on another point. In talking about the first six episodes of the season he says one of the goals was to explain why the others took Jack, Kate, and Sawyer and that he thinks they answered that question. In fact he adds, "We feel that we told that story fairly compellingly and well." I get that they needed Jack to operate on Ben, and I could even roll with them needing Kate as a hostage to motivate Jack. But I have no idea what the deal was with the bear cages, the rock hauling, or the torture. Considering that they never let Jack see what was happening to either of them, I have no idea why any of it was necessary.
He also hints at that ridiculous "are the others good or bad" idea. Hasn't that ship sailed? You don't get to murder people, kidnap children, hang the hobbit from his neck and leave him to die, enslave people and torture them, etc., and then be the good guy. It just can't happen. Not even BKV can polish that turd.
The interview also touches on Walt and Michael, the reasoning behind the addition of Nikki and Paulo, and the fact that they are stalling for big answers because they fear that viewers will start tuning out like when they found out who killed Laura Palmer. Unfortunately, they don't point out that viewers have started tuning out because they haven't found out who killed Laura Palmer.
If you're a fan of the show, there is some good preview stuff in there without being too spoilery. And if you are one of the disgruntled former fans, you'll find plenty of fuel for your next rant.














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12-29-2006 @ 9:18AM
radwimp said...
If you say so, Damon. If you say so.
Lost has just been one major disappointment after the first season ended for me. I thought they were going in the right direction after the second season ended, but so far this year it's just been awful. Ben? Totally ruined his awesome character for me. So he was just some loser with a tumour who was looking for a doctor? Ugh, please. Stop with the 'Others' and just get back to the mystery of the island! That was when it was actually good.
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12-29-2006 @ 11:06AM
Karen said...
How bizarre!
I don't even watch the show, myself, but wouldn't you want to kill off characters to, um, serve the plot? Rather than just to show how ballsy you are?
Clearly, I'm not missing anything.
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12-29-2006 @ 11:24AM
RSL said...
Oh look! Another set of comments begun with the unusually rapier wit of the Lost-hater(tm). Seriously... If you kittens hate the Lost so much, please do us all a favor, two actually. 1. Stop watching the show and 2. stop commenting on every post you can about it. I get that you need everything explained and you can't accept a world where mysteries aren't summed-up [dumbed-down] every couple of months, but some of us DO enjoy the show still and just plain get tired of hearing you yammer the same mimeographed Comic Book Guy complaints.
As for Ben, are you really so dense to think that Ben, who has yet to be on the level with anyone on the island, couldn't be screwing with people's heads on this one too? Sure, there's a tumor. [We suppose.] But I don't understand how the fact that Ben has a tumor and a doctor and might use one to fix the other has ANYTHING to do with undermining just how duplicitous we've seen him to be in the past. Who are you, Sawyer??
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12-29-2006 @ 11:38AM
Tim Dorr said...
#1 I'll have to disagree about Ben. I think he's just as creepy and shifty as ever. There's clearly still more to figure out about him, especially after his comments about being on the island so long.
#2 Yeah, I hate the deaths on this show, too. They always seem so arbitrary. Shannon's is probably the only one that makes any sense, but now that's entirely mute considering we only have Bernard left from the survivors. Ana Lucia's had some point, too. But Libby, Boone, and Eko have pretty much died for no good reason.
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12-29-2006 @ 12:05PM
nick said...
I've started watching Criminal Minds, now that Lost is off the air (seems like indefinately), and I'm not sure I'm interested in returning to Lost. This season was pretty boring at best, dragging out the capture of the main characters.
ABC pretty much served Criminal Minds a new audience, and not since Commander in Chief, have I seen such a hit show lose momentum by such an extended break. I would not be surprised if Lost does not have the numbers it enjoyed earier in the year, even though all these Lost stories are appearing while the show is off the air.
On Wednesday nights my choice is now CM at 9pm
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12-29-2006 @ 12:36PM
jake said...
Well, you can still watch your criminal minds at 9 as Lost is moving to 10p. I don't get why everyone is all of a sudden so disappointed with lost. It still has great writing, acting and directing -- even if some of you think it's not at it's best -- it certainly is a lot better than other shows on the air now. If they gave away all the answers -- would you still watch? if they tease you with the questions -- well that's all part of the journey. Give Lost a break!
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12-29-2006 @ 12:56PM
Andy G. said...
I couldn't disagree more. Damon and Carlton are incredibly charismatic and fun people. The LOST Podcast has done wonders to keep my interest in the show up. It's the first podcast I listen to when it's released, even if I have 5-6 ahead of it in the queue.
They do a great job of hinting at the future, and keeping a level head about the success of their show.
And Damon has said several times on his podcast that the actor playing Mr. Eko was signed into a short term contract, and he was never intended to last longer than 15-20 episodes. Just because he's not exactly saying that in this interview doesn't mean he's trying to cover it up.
I still fail to understand the gripes about this show. It has lost none of it's appeal to me over the course of three seasons. Hey, in the first bit of season 3, they made Jack likable again. Who knew it was possible?
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12-29-2006 @ 1:14PM
Josh said...
Fans wanted Shannon and Boone to be killed? I sure didn't. I wasn't happy at all about killing either of them. Now if they'd kill Jack, that would be fantastic. I might actually have interest in the show again if that were to happen.
IMO, the show has went seriously downhill since Season 1. I continued watching Season 2 in the hopes of it getting better, but I have now completely lost interest. With the move to 10:00 I'll most likely quit watching.
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12-29-2006 @ 1:15PM
Charles said...
I saw an article interview with Matthew Fox online the other day, and he kind of laughed at all the "disgruntled" fans, basically saying that they became sooo obsessed with theories and speculation that they came up with their OWN vision for the show, and actually became dissapointed in what the ACTUAL SHOW was doing.
Frankly, I love it when producers, directors and writers are very frank and avaliable for interviews. You can get a better sense of their vision and direction for the show.
And quite frankly, Lost answers a buttload of questions. It's just not usually in a dramatic, "We're answering your questions NOW!" kind of a way. I mean, for the mini-season, we learned a lot about the Others, their way of life, and learned that they occupy another DHARMA station, AND they live in suburbia(!), learned of a second island, met new castaways, met Mr. Eyepatch/Uncle Drosselmeyer (howbeit for 2 seconds), killed Mr. Eko, pretty much explained that the smoke monster is a shapeshifter, found out that Jin may know more of Sun's secrets than we thought, found out that Desmond is in the wrong show and actually belongs on "Heroes", found out that Jack was kind of a psychotic stalker after the divorce, found out that Locke threatened to kill a police officer after helping to grow drugs, showed us more of Kate's past as a desperate housewife, and we met Juliet, who ties with Benry Gale for the most-emotion-emiited-from-one's-eyes.
In Season 1, in addition to all the tiny little "mysteries" (plot points, really, like in any other show), we got three big, over-arching mysteries: The hatch, the Others and the island.
Season 2 focused on the hatch.
Season 3 is focusing on the Others.
Season 4, no doubt, will focus on the island again.
I'm looking foward to seeing how the rest of season 3 plays out. :)
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12-29-2006 @ 1:52PM
DAVE said...
They killed of the characters because the actors were either to demanding or out of control drunk driving divas. But I don't care at this point.
I want a story line that works even if we don't have all the answers (see BSG)
And enough of Jack screaming with authority when hes in no such position.
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12-29-2006 @ 2:05PM
jDub said...
#5 - if you prefer Criminal Minds to Lost, I'm not sure Lost wants you back. Yeesh.
#2 - if you don't watch the show, seriously, move on. You're adding nothing.
Brett - The rocks and the torture and the bear cages were necessary to make Kate and Sawyer scared. And to bond them. So that when Jack sees Kate after all that time, she's frantic to save Sawyer and desperately tries to convince Jack to operate on Henry/Ben. I suppose they didn't just offer him his freedom to do the surgery because they thought he'd refuse unless he could take everyone else with him. Now that he's seen Kate and Sawyer together, he doesn't care anymore.
I can't wait to see how it all unfolds. I like the show, like the mystery, and will watch as long as it's on.
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12-29-2006 @ 2:34PM
TedSez said...
The relationship between "Lost"'s writer/producers and their audience is this: They promise cake, then show up with a few bread crumbs. Then they do lots of interviews in which they say, "Oh, no, that was cake -- you guys just don't understand what cake tastes like."
As to those who think the audience should either love "Lost" or stop watching, I say: We want to enjoy this show. It could have been, and should have been, one of the most entertaining shows ever. But the storylines aren't "too complicated" for us to understand, and we're not "too impatient" to wait for payoffs that are surely coming one day. The fact is, the stories have wandered all over the place; characters come and go for ridiculous reasons; the sly humor and fun characterizations have given way to torture scenes and soap-opera conflicts; the mysteries aren't being set up in a way that will make sense later; things that are supposed to already be clear aren't; and things that should be made clear at some point obviously never will because the writers haven't figured them out themselves. And to tell the audience "Trust us, this is all for your benefit" over and over doesn't work when you've lost the audience's trust already.
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12-29-2006 @ 6:07PM
mb said...
Unfortunately, I consider myself a fan and have loved the first season, appreciated the second season and have become puzzled with the third season.
Why?
My love for this show has always been about the writing. The character development that Damon and company have put together has always been interesting, but the show *always* dealt with the mystery of the island (or fate?). It was compelling to watch how these characters coped with the unknown.
Until the third season.
IMHO, it seems that too many shortcuts were offered ("hey, let's drop two new characters onto the beach outta nowhere"), or that the writers got too confident (cocky). To center the third season around the Others was a risky move, because viewers would have to experience something really big to keep their interest piqued. In other words, to keep selling the show to the public.
Their approach has failed, because they put together a dismal package that never progressed anywhere. I agree with @TedSez that the show "wandered all over the place" to feature a season with the Others that progressed nowhere; why was it important to drag us away from an excellent story-changing finale (2nd season) and show us nothing of importance?
I can imagine that the ABC execs (who are showing 5 minutes of the show, then 3 minutes of advertising) are keeping an eye on the ratings considering the long break. The bosses must've knew that a strong diversion from a successful storyline would be risky at the beginning of the season, but the writers should know that they're under the microscope now.
It would take such a well-written plot(s) to keep this season from backfiring any further. I hope they do pull it off, because the damage from the first 6 episodes might have damaged the future of this series.
We certainly don't need another ambiguous series like "The Nine," and neither do the executives at ABC.
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12-29-2006 @ 6:18PM
MosquitoControl said...
Meh.
Lost started boring me in Season 2, as with the rest of you. No answers, for one. The downfall of most of the characters, for another. Yes, I learned in Season 1 to deal with Jack crying in every conversation, Sawyer always getting his ass kicked... I learned to love these things.
But in Season 2 suddenly Locke, one of the few taking charge, became, well, a little schoolgirl. And Sayyid kept trying to take charge, but every plan he came up with ended up failing and failing miserably.
I got, and remain, sick of Locke. Sick of Sayyid. Sick of Charlie (couldn't they have taken him over Boone?) Sick of Claire (and she was hot), sick of pretty much everyone but the love triangle and Hurley. And, I suppose, Desmond. Everyone else... meh.
I was happy seeing Anna-Lucia go. But she took everyone from the back half with her, save Bernard. So... what did we learn from the first half of last season? What did it amount to?
Whatever, I'm still watching, but disinterestedly. I'm actually only 3 episodes into this season. That whole ARG over the summer seemed to answer some questions, but do so in such poor fashion. From what I've been told, though, those answers come into doubt in the episodes I've yet to watch.
Ha, sorry for the poorly written comment here, I'm doing too many things at once.
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12-29-2006 @ 7:05PM
Jake Lockley said...
Bull.
I stopped watching Lost aftyer season 2 because I told myself if they didn't have at least one plot round itself out it was a sign that they were the worst writers on the planet or they were just making it up as they go. They resolved nothing, not even from season 1, and it became pretty clear the show is nothing more than a commercial version of Twin Peaks throwing out things that make you wonder so you'll come back for more next week. Now I only read TVSquad to find out if they have resolved anything - so far they still haven't - so much for season 3. Keep watching like good little consumers.
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12-30-2006 @ 1:00AM
a2 said...
Season 1 and 2 of Lost contained at least one suprising revelation each show. Typically something you didn't see coming. It was fresh. Inventive. Exciting. And sometimes humorous.
Season 3, on the otherhand, is utterly dull. There were a couple of shows that explained the same event over and over again, but from different perspectives, grealy slowing down the pace. Characters died, but not ones we were seeing week to week anymore, or central to the story.
Was anyone else waiting for something significant to occur, only to be let down by the end of each show?
My friends have all remarked at how disappointing this season has been. Two of my friends stopped watching.
This WAS the one show we'd all talk about
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12-30-2006 @ 2:18PM
beanspants1 said...
the show kinda sucks, and i say that as a fan.
the others had several chances to capture jack and have him do surgery, (like when they let kate go) why'd the have to get michael to lure them back, which could have failed, and in the process, losties killed some others?
why didn't they just ask him to do the surgery without all the terrorizing?
how could there be a second island? is everyone blind?
it's a decent show, but the writers really need to get it together, because it's quickly falling apart under its own weight.
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1-01-2007 @ 12:55PM
zzz said...
Mr Eko was boring. I liked Ana Lucia.
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1-01-2007 @ 1:16PM
Bill said...
People, get a hold of yourself, stop bitchin'. We are only six episodes into season three, there are still 16 thats 16 episodes left for number 3. Have a little faith. Im a huge fan of lost and despite the drop in ratings(who gives a sh*t) i think it is still one of the best shows on tv, always has been always will be.Dont give up on it yet theres still alot of time left.
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1-05-2007 @ 3:56PM
Tannia said...
I have to say the explanation was pretty obscure. However, they are experts in hyping their show by dropping hints of spoilers that has served them well. A spoilers blog I like discussing their interview is at http://lost-spoilers-blog.blogspot.com/ . They give the interviews as a part of an effort to keep Lost fresh in the minds of their fans during the winter break, and they really are the best anyone ever has seen at it, after all, they always get people discussing thir show. A lot of the frustration with lack of answers seems to be gender based. A lot of women audience members love the focus on relationships earlier this season. However, they now are signally with the interviews that it is back to more adventure and less emphasis on relationships to try to shore up the other half of their fan base.
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