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"And sort-of on that topic, it's interesting how marriage is considered a sacrament, though their religion of believing in multiple gods is so different than Earth's Christianity."

Right. Because christianity invented marriage and was the first religion to consider it sacramental.

Maybe you need to start watching some educational channels or something.

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Great culmination of this 1/2 of the season. Tonight was my second viewing--after the TV guide showing in NYC Thursday night. I keep thinking about the nukes, Geata's remarks about star about to go nova. Call me crazy, but once could guess there is a 60m window before they are launched into the star? is it enough?

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I don't understand why D'Anna decides to go the planet knowing that BSG will probably launch an attack. She could have gone earlier with the Cylon away expedition.....
Tyrol seems to have come from a family that was deeply religious, thus he must have a part to play in unlocking the secrets of the temple.
I get confused between the "real" Caprica" and the "cyber Caprica". There's a lot more to that than we know thus far.
Baltar has some role here, but we don't know it yet.
If there are more Cylons on BSG then the group on the Cylon ships are not aware of them. How come?
A huge numbe of lose end are hanging.
For sure the next play is by Tyrol. It would seem that on Jan 21st he will trigger some awesome "shield" around the temple. This will separate everyone on the planet from those in the ships.
Q: Why did BSG put themselves so obviously at risk in the proximity of the Cylon ships? That doesn't seem a good strategy.

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"There's a pretty famous science fiction book that has a theme of trinity relationships, of which name escapes me for some reason."

You're thinking of Rendezvous with Rama by Arthur C. Clarke.

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"And sort-of on that topic, it's interesting how marriage is considered a sacrament, though their religion of believing in multiple gods is so different than Earth's Christianity."

Whoa! Herbert Max is right. It sounds like you need to get out more, Kevin.

I am Hindu. I was taught to believe in multiple gods. GET THIS. I was also taught to believe in the sacrament of marriage. Who would have thought? In the words of Morpheus....Free Your Mind.

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It seems to me that there could quite possibly still be a cylon of major proportion on the Galactica; possibly someone high up in power.

The continuing theme of discovering them seems to be a place where the writers want to take us. What if one of the five cylons is on Galactica?

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I think Adama had no idea of what Roslin was planning(in terms of Heras' situation). He was pissed imo..and stormed off in accordance. Hell, he was surprised as hell when Laura admitted to trying to "steal" the election in Season 2. Bill and Laura respect each other immensely, BUT...they make the best decisions in their own mind for the benefit of the fleet. So they may not deflect to each other opinions in certain situations. Roslin made a decision a year ago that will cause a lot of turmoil among many(Athena, Helo, Adama).
To all those that have wondered "what the hell is going on w/ the Hera storyline": well...here it comes. PATIENCE people. BSG is not a series you throw in the microwave and expect your "favored" results ASAP. This is what makes this show so compelling. It takes its time. It develops and fleshes its stories out at its own pace. Which is so REFRESHING!!
On another note...what was up w/ Chief? Sure, he had a "sense" of where to go. But maybe this could tie into last seasons "Chief-centric" ep.(where he beats Callie and has a brilliant back-and-forth w/ Stockwell about him being a Cy.) This ep. actions kinda odd imo. What led him there?
Great to see Baltar back on BSG. I know some loathe his character, but it was cool.(I love Baltar)
Athena and Helo--where to go from here?? At least Adama came clean immediately after learning of Heras' survival.
Oh..Tricia Helfer is so awesome...and I prefer brunettes.

More later....BSG FRAKKING RULES!!!!!!!

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I have a feeling that Adm. Adama's other son (the one who has died) will turn out to be a Cylon.

That would be a good way to tie up the loose end where Leoben tells Kara & Roslin (in the torture episode) that "Adama is a Cylon".

Also, this was disproved tonight but during the threesome scenes in prior eps, did anyone else think that Baltar was just sleeping with D'Anna and that the Six to the other side of him was just his imaginary one.

One more thing...I wonder if the chosen one is Caprica Six because when the weird hybrid lady pops up and says the 'chosen one', Caprica Six is standing in the background.

Thoughts?

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Damn...that was a FRAKKING good episode. And one of the best cliff-hangers in a long time. The return of BSG might have passed 24's premiere as my most anticipated show for January...

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-Laura's expression near the end was priceless. Although I really like her character, stealing Athena's baby was a shitty move. Adama was rightly pissed, though we all know he won't launch the nuke (c'mon...can you imagine the series without Lee and Kara?)

-Kara thinks marriage is a sacrament but won't stop frakking Lee? That just sounds inane. Oh and everyone, don't get your panties in a bunch over Keith's Christianity comment...the term 'sacrament' is usually associated with Christianity, though every religion values marriage equally.

-Way too much confusion over the D'Anna/Baltar chosen one plot. Lucy Lawless is still listed as a "Special Guest Star", so I wonder when her character will "die".

-Are the 5 unknown cylons the ones mentioned in the sciptures? Here's what Laura says before Adama interrupts her to talk about the baby: "5 pillars of the temple were fashioned after 5 priests devoted to the one who's name cannot be..(interrupted)". I think that's a HUGE hint that those 5 cylons were responsible for finding earth, and may be the ones who revolted against the cylon gods. Then again, I am a bit sketchy on the timeline of the whole thing...were the cylons created before the scriptures were written? Also, they should have been immune to the virus which affected other cylons. Perhaps these were humans who created the cylons?

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Wasn't "Free your mind" an 80's or 90's song by envouge?

I was thinking 1 or 2 of the base ships could jump in between galatica and the planet to take 1 for the team.

Since there is another BSG in the works that is about Adama's dad and when cylons 1st are built I don't think the "5" can be the priests that built the temple, but i do think there is a connection and that was a hint tonight.

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I'm (again) going to have to watch again before I delve to deeply here, but just a couple of quick notes:

- I disagree with Keith, and think that this episode clearly showed that Adama did NOT know about Hera's life.

- If I remember correctly, this temple was time dated like thousands of years (5?) in the past. Have we ever gotten a solid time line on when the Cylon's were created? I know that if Caprica (The new series) is supposed to be set 40 years in the past, and that no one knew of humanoid Cylons before the genesis of this series, then the implication that the Five Boxed Cylons have a connection to the Five Priests (Were they priests?) represented in the Temple of Five really is too big of a leap for me to make.

- As long as we're talking about coincidences, forget the fact that the Chief was lead to the chamber, forget the supernova, forget the Cylons and Humans converging on the planet, hows for the fact that, with the entire planet to gather algae from, they build an outpost within walking distance of this place?

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Sacrament has a dictionary definition, and was surely used in this episode in that way:

An Act, Acts and/or Process or Series of Acts which has a specific Spiritual purpose and has become Sacred to a Tradition.

Or, from m-w.com:

Etymology: Middle English sacrement, sacrament, from Anglo-French & Late Latin; Anglo-French, from Late Latin sacramentum, from Latin, oath of allegiance, obligation, from sacrare to consecrate
1 a : a Christian rite (as baptism or the Eucharist) that is believed to have been ordained by Christ and that is held to be a means of divine grace or to be a sign or symbol of a spiritual reality b : a religious rite or observance comparable to a Christian sacrament
2 capitalized a : COMMUNION 2a b : BLESSED SACRAMENT
3 : something likened to a religious sacrament

The English language is clearly heavily influenced by traditions of christianity, but just because someone uses a word that became known for referring to the christian tradition doesn't mean the christians invented the concept or that the concept doesn't pre-date Christianity. If you translated "sacrament" into a non-western language you would most assuredly come up with a word which in that language had no relationship to christiantiy whatsoever. Jews were getting married for thousands of years before the christians, and marriage was considered sacred that whole time. Likewise many other religions that predate Christianity by thousands of years.

Your comment in your review comes off as "whoa! look at that! those non-christians respect the institution of marriage as a sacred union and aren't complete heathens like all the rest of the non-christians!"

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Dorv, I would say the same thing that caused the temple builders to pick that spot are the same it was choosen now..beeter veggitation or more of it..shelter better weather...etc

I thought the humanoid models are the new model so they deffinatly wern't around 40 yrs ago or 5k... but maybe the 5 priest had other temples or teachings that the "5" we based on.


WHO CARES about the definition of different words in the reviews posting.


I also meant to post my 1st time is I think Kira wants Sam to die so she doesn't have to worry about divorce or cheating. That's why she was quick to say Sam should lead the civilians...not trained..won't have his back..chance of friendly fire. Didn't you see the look between her and Apollo when she made the suggestion.

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Okay!

Raise your hand if you feel that the Kara / Lee sub-plot feels too contrived.

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Right now I'm feeling kinda bad for Baltar. Sure, the guy's a dirtbag, but I shudder to think of what will happen to him when the Galactica crew get their hands on him.

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Fives...

I cannot help but think that it's too conincidental that there are five unseen Cylons and five pillars in the temple.

I also cannot help but think that the major character who is potentially a Cylon is NOT Will Adama, unless you're willing to believe that both his wife and sons are Cylons. If his wife was human then Lee and Zack were the first human / Cylon hybrids, not Hera. If his wife, Lee, and Zack were Cylons, then we've been frakked all along.

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No one pointed out the magical nukes? I thought there was only 6 nukes in season 1 and Baltar was given one. That's 5, 4 through 10 were loaded and that would be 7 nukes.

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