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This episode seems like filler...

We had a climactic end to the previous episode that signaled the end of two relationships and the possible denouement of another... yet those aren't even mentioned.

And did the entire matter of the cylon virus go away? Yes, I like the continued dalliance of whether or not Baltar is a Cylon and his interaction with the hybrid... but we seem to be stalling.

And interesting that references to "Jupiter" in the dialogue read "Zeus" in the closed captioning...

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The Jupiter thing is really irking me the more I think about it. Jupiter is NOT Hera's husband - Zeus is. If you're going to use the Greek mythology, get it right.

Other than that I truly enjoyed the episode, but that stupid little writer's trick/screwup going to sit badly with me because I suspect it does in fact signal a major plot point.

I look forward to learning more about SuiciD'eanna's experiences in the "in-between." I think she's projecting something that doesn't exist, as we know Cylons can do. I'd like to be wrong, though.

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"This episode seems like filler..."

What? The last two were nothing BUT filler - something actually happened in this episode. The ships actually physically moved forward, someone died, circumstances changed, people changed, ships were lost...how is that filler?

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I missed the beginning. What was on the otherside of the radiation cloud that's edible? Space algae?

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I just enjoy the fact that they killed a character without having annoying commercials all week telling viewers that they were going to... ::cough:: LOST ::cough:: Heroes ... got to respect that.

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I'll miss Kat, she was a really good background character and was a good adversary/rival for Starbuck. Also agree with Michael B. about them not doing the "ONE CHARACTER WILL DIE..." type promotions, thank god. Very honourable death.

Loved the Tigh/Adama scene. Saul really needed a good laugh.

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I disagree on the whole Jupiter thing. I dont think the eye of jupiter is going to be the Jupiter in our solar system.

Gaetas lack of applause I read totally different. I thought it was more of a Gaeta not quite sure what to make of Tigh coming back. Not that he had any disrespect for him.

malren- dont get upset about the zeus/hera thing. There is no rule at ALL that says the mythology in BSG shares anything with earth mythology other than names.

In regards to filler/not filler BSG only has two main concepts to the show (not a bad thing, just laying them out)
Concept 1: Character Drama- Deep characters and their lives and how they cope with desperatley trying to find a new home.
Concept 2: Traveling through space to reach Earth and the hardships with that.

Sometimes the main story is a 1, sometimes a 2. Many times they cross over and interlap.

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I'm not really sure how I feel about this episode. We got to see (almost) everyone arrive near a new planet, and got some insight into D'ianna's actions, and why she is so conflicted.

Agreed with Akbar on the Gaeta/Saul thing. It was an extremely minor part of the story and I'm sure there are no hard feelings between them.

As for the Kat storyline, it was hit and miss. I didn't really care that she was not really who she was. She redeemed herself in the end, but similar themes have been done in countless shows, including BSG itself (the Boomer storyline was somewhat similar).

After the absolutely brilliant start to the season the show has fallen a bit flat in the last 2/3 episodes. They weren't bad episodes by any means, but just not upto the high standards of BSG. Here's hoping the writers wow us in the last few episodes (how many are left? 3?)

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SJ, we have alot more than 3 left.

We have one more episode next week and then a month long hiatus and then the final 9 of season 3.

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Oh I guess it is more similar to season 2's structure, which also started out brilliantly, had a few "filler" episodes and ended strongly.

The thought of 10 more BSG episodes brought a smile to my face.

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Akbar: I think he meant until the 'Fall Finale' as the term seems to be en vogue these days. I'm going to come back with more, after I listen to the podcast tomorrow at work, but I will say this. I'll be damned if Jane Espenson didn't make me care about Kat. Bitch.

(I say that out of love. I'm the guy that jumped up and down when her name was a toss away name in 24 this past season. I remember mentioning as such in the comments of that blog post here, and people saying, "Who's that?" Is this a TV blog, or will the idiots just shut up?) :)

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Saul/Gaeta - Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time they interacted, one of them tried to throw the other out of an airlock. I think there are still some hard feelings there. Personally, if I were Gaeta, I would have torn his other eye out.

I also thought that Kara refering to her comrades as 'good people' was fairly ironic. Do they really see themselves as 'good' at this point? The show has done so much to 'grey up' the characters, that most of them seem fairly unredeemable to me... except for Helo, of course.

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I think Keith missed the reason why the rations were low, which was not Apollo's previously buldging waistline, but some form of accidental contamination had been introduced into the food stock and had rendered most of it useless.

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space is big, really big (to steal from Doglas Adams...) and spaceships can travel in three-dimensions... so, since the destination planet didn't seem to be in the radiation cloud, why couldn't they just take the long way around? Not bother going through the cloud at all? If it was a question of time, it couldn't have taken more time than five jumps back and forth.

and another things... did the writers forget raptors can attach themselves to other ships? why couldn't they simply have travelled as pairs, connected and therefore not risking losing sight of the other ship... assuming you dont have to be in free flight to jump, of course.

and another 'nother thing, did they run out of anti-rad? that stuff was all over the mini and first season.

my point is, the whole premise seemed lke a stretch, just to do a "sacrifice" story... at least when they did it in season 2 (the captain's hand) the need for a sacrfice, while also contrived, seemed plausable.

that's four pretty poor episodes in a row now. the preview for next week gives me hope, though. (if they're worried about their ratings, i bet it will be our jupiter they find at the end of the season. it'd make an interesting kick-off point in four, or an interesting place to end the show.)

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greco, about the space thing, it was probably just the predicable 'going around would take years compared to going through' plot you see in sci-fi all the time. I wouldn't expect BSG to fall back on something like that... but I guess they needed something.

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I agree that this episode was poor -- slow moving, and focused on a character that really had not been fleshed out before, so her demise was not that deeply felt. But last week's apollo/kara episode was very very strong. I guess many of us are split on that thought.

I kept thinking, so what was so great about this special episoe writer that everyone was so eagerly waiting for...this?

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granted, radwimp, that it was a fall-back... it's just that I hate to see the writers, who are obviously able to come up with better and more plausable reasons for thing, get so lazy... and they've been getting lazier. i don't begrudge their desire to tell a good sacrifice type story, just that this one was so contrived. i expect better from the second best show on tv (sorry, Sorkin's back and Studio 60's running on all cylinders... and writing always wins the day with me...)

anyway, let's just hope the new caprica-reboot wasn't the dreaded shark jumping moment.

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The CC for last night show did indeed have the Jupiter - Zeus flip flop, they stated one, and then the other was on the screen.
I also like the way they dropped the attachment of the ships, as well as forgetting that jumping to a set of coordinates would - as stated in prior episodes - 'land' then exactly where they should be, in relation to each other. (Would have liked to see Adama's face when he liberated the camp, jumping into the ground, or just above it.) so assume that they have to be at least able to jump with a margin of 1 atmosphere, and then factor that by 10 due to stellar mass interference, you are still within our standards for radio contact vie radio/wireless, whatever.
OK, my peace is said, not the flaying may begin!
CTSCo

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I never understood how they discovered this algae planet in the first place given that it was hidden by a "radiation cloud." And isn't all of space filled with radiation anyway?

Jupiter/Zeus: seems like they are trying to do a hard tack on the whole pantheon of gods, pretending that gods were meant to represent planets in our solar system or something. So I guess the "eye of Jupiter," is the red hurricane spot on that planet.

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Great episode for hard core fans like me. Maybe it felt like filler for the casual fans. However, my question for Jane becomes more relevent now. "Do you feel you got a fair edit?" -- as I suspected I think there was a about 2 minutes worth of episode shown in a different dimension that could have explained things a bit better....

I.E. -- Sharon finding the planet. More details about the food contamination.

HOWEVER -- I do feel that there were a couple of key scenes that did not get cut that helped the story.

I.E. -- Adama getting some time to sit by Kat's deathbed.

SCENES THEY COULD HAVE DONE BETTER -- The friction from Kara during her "apology" at Kat's bedside was weak....I think she (Kara) could have been more respectful of what Kat did for her salvation...The apology was a bit weak.

all in all -- a good episode. I was pleased...and it almost made me cry at the end.

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