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Was Sorkin still with West Wing at the time they did The Leak? I thought he left before that.

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#6 -- Season 7 of "Gilmore Girls"...

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Richard Schiff did leave the show, but the way he was writen off was terrible. He should have just left with Josh and be on the sidelines, or go teach, anything would have been better. Of course killing his brother off during the year jump was rather lame too.

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#1. Bob knows that, what he is saying that Aaron Sorkin must have been pissed off at John "Not So" Wells for wrecking his show.

#2. I think Gilmore Girls anytime after she started college is the downfall. The show really died once Logan became Rory's boyfriend and not Marty aka Naked Guy.

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Sorkin left way before the plotline was ever started (the fact that it was so out of character should be obvious enough). The last scene of the S4 finale was kind of an homage for Sorkin leaving the series.

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I was just reminded of one of these the other day

Revealing Doctor Bashir was genetically changed to be perfect. Ruined his character because everything was then a lie and the rest of the show he was just a walking computer.

I actually hated Lauren Graham on News Radio (and was sad Khandi left later) and because of my hatred of her there I get a bitter taste in my mouth when I see her anywhere.

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Willow gets addicted to magic.

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Not really a 'fanesia moment' but Silvio whacking Adriana on The Sopranos was shocking. I would never have thought that Tony or Chris would do that, but I quickly understood why they did it.

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The entire 7th season of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer." And at least half of the 6th, too.

The fifth time-killing season of "Babylon 5" (except for the series finale, written & filmed during Season 4).

"The Simpsons" from around Season 9 on.

By the way, "Cheers" officially ended when Diane left at the end of Season 5.

The Harry Morgan silly-sitcom years of "M*A*S*H."

Oh, were you looking for smaller moments? :-)

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#9 ScottH, no, that's not fanesia, that's "writer-esia".

Writer-esia is when the writers are contracted to push the emotionally dead cash cow in front of the audiences for several more seasons of curtain calls. Writer-esia is often caused by large stacks of green stuff and is noticable when the writers to forget the level of quality that lifted the TV show out of the quality ghetto in the first place.

Of your examples of Writer-esia, Babylon 5 is the best example.

Fanesia then, would be a trick the writers who are infected with writer-esia do and where the diehard fans blindingly forgive them for doing it.

I imagine a giant dartboard where various outlandish scenarios are written and then a blind monkey or UPS delivery boy is ushered in to throw a dart, and wherever the dart lands, THAT is the plot twist that gets the writers through the next few episodes. When logic strains credulity, the plot twist is then quickly forgotten. The rest of the fair weather fans of the show are scratching their heads in a collective WTF? moment.

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The worst part about Mark Greene's death was that it took 2 freakin' years to happen! God, that storyline was utter, unadulterated torture.

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Please enough mentioning of Paris Hilton,Jessica
Simpson and Her Sister,and Lindsey Lohan!! It seems
most of Hawaii's teenagers,and young adult women in
the 21-26 age range don't care about those women!!
And its so stupid for the media to keep focusing on
those women,Paris Hilton-rich brat,Jessica Simpson
along with Her Sister-can barely sing,but most men
focus on Her body instead! And Lindsey Lohan is a Star
who thinks She's big enough to be a prima donna on
Her movies,well She doesn't realize,She can be black
balled or a hasbeen,and be out on the street!!

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I don't think Richard Schiff (Toby) wanted to leave the show since he was in many episodes of the last season. I think the writers were trying to find new "fantastic" ways of interesting the audience but this storyline was awful.

Richard Schiff gave an interview and said that he hated the storyline and felt there was no way that Toby would have done it.

If I had my way we would have found out that one of the other staffers had leaked it accidentally and Toby took the blame out of loyalty or something. The outcome would still be the same but Toby's character would have been intact.

The final season pales in comparison to the early seasons.

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Wasn't it, not so gently, intimated that Toby was asked by the President to be the leak?

For wanting him off the show he sure was around a lot.

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Season 4 of BtVS.

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My moment of fanesia is when Adam Rove slept with that art chick during the second season of "Joan of Arcadia." It was so out of character. Plus the writers sprung it on the audience without any justifications or reasoning for the behavior.

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The West Wing suffered the issue from being on the air too long, while attempting to relate to a real life and logical time cycle.

To compensate, they decided to go with a plotline of following democratic and republican presidental candidates on the campaign trail. And by doing so, they lost track of almost all the series regulars. They really didn't know what to do with them. Some were repurposed to help with the elections, which seemed somewhat illogical.

And long before the character Toby was fired for releasing government secrets, the series has already proven illogical by making the press secretary the chief of staff. Huh?

Martin Sheen practically disappeared the last season, and was only seen every other couple of episodes, and even then, sometimes only briefly.

It was as if the West Wing was an entirely different show.

And had you not known about the show the prior years, it might have worked. The campaign trail was actually exciting.

But anyone who cared or enjoyed about the West Wing was probably wondering what happened to the series.

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The 8th and 9th seasons of The X-Files

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