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GREAT episode, although I'm also surprised at how equally they are setting up the next episode to favor both evolution and religion. I'm sure evolution will be heavily favored, but without some moral caveat that will almost certainly be defined in a "I learned something today" segment by Stan.

Richard Dawkins is a personal hero to me, and it's funny to see Mrs. Garrison being able to control him.

The 2nd part of this episode has some potential to fail, but I have faith (ha!) that Matt and Trey and the rest of the writing staff can pull this off to be as good, if not better, than Cartoon Wars.

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mmmm Flying spaghetti monster... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_spaghetti_monster

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The point, and it was like one sentence, is that evolution does not prove or disprove God. Evolution has no part of metaphysics.

I do think they were making fun of that stupid spaghetti monster god thing that is popular on the Internet. It is so dumb and cliche.

So I don't see them saying one is better.

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So, in a single episode they combined the Nintendo Wii, Evolutionism vs Creationism, Buck Rogers, the Shining, Spagetti monster AND a little reference to Battlestar Galactica! I loved this!

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>>I do think they were making fun of that stupid spaghetti monster god thing that is popular on the Internet. It is so dumb and cliche.

I think that's kinda the point the thing is trying to prove. Why do people not call God "so dumb & cliché"?

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Why do people not yet realize that south park is "dumb and cliched"? Seriously, atheism is a religion? Evolution and religion can coexist? Wheeee....real revolutionary ideas there. I don't know anyone that didn't stumble upon these nugs of wisdom sometime around eigth grade. Why must people pretend that South Park is somehow cutting edge satire when it is dependent on generic bodily function humor and a pseudo-philosophic-holier-than-though attitude that we were supposed to outgrow in high school? The show has just gotten insufferable.

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er..holier-than-thou, actually. Not sure if holier than through means anything.

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i love this show, as issues come up in the world, they make it simple and funny, something we all need, like ive said before, a show doesnt have to be perfect, i mean, jesus, your ripping this show apart like its meant to be serous.

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Just curious, but when (and how) do you think Matt and Trey are going to tackle the issue of a Mel Gibson doing his drunken rant? Will the SP Gibson go off on Jews? Women? Police? People with the letter 'R' in their names? Or all of the above?

Another SP episode I'd like to see is one that references the current trend of audience members at Barbara Streisand concerts objecting to her forcing her political views on them by ridiculing a GW Bush impersonator. I'm thinking along two lines, either Streisand tries to take out the heckler with an AK-47 and kills Kenny by mistake, or she is arrested for not allowing equal time for opposing political views and ends up sharing a jail cell with John Kerry (who has just been determined to be too uneducated, and has volunteered for Leavenworth instead of being sent to Iraq).

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I think that the point everyone is missing is that every side of every issue is fair game. They show us how both sides of every issue is equally as lame as the other in a humorous way. I never expected them to go more on the side of evolution, nor do I expect them to do so in the next episode. What makes South Park so great is that it makes fun of EVERYTHING! Nothing is sacred.

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I think the main point they wanted to make about Richard Dawkins and the "root of all evil" ideas about god that many modern Athiests including myself have, were summed up in the date scene with Mrs. Garrison, when she converts instantly to Athiesm without a second thought and almost sarcastically repeats Dawkin s rhetoric about the spaghetti monster. They wanted to poke fun at the somewhat patronizing and insulting way that Dawkins goes about attempting to explin his views.

I think the "science damn you" etc. lines are meant to show Matt and Treys thoughts that religion is not the cause of war or the "root of all evil", but not neccisarily that Atheism would be the cause of war.

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The Dawkins bashing was lazy. Normally they satire a person by making a characature of their personality, but to have Dawkins do Mrs. Garrison is just mean and lazy. Anyone could be substituted for Dawkins here convincing Garrison to see the light over anything. The paradody sucked. Better to have Dawkins go to Hell. I was bummed out that they weren't more creative with spoofing him. It just seemed mean and not creative even if the later Atheist sects was inspired.

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my email is hunter.puterangi@students.whs.co.nz for the episodes theory

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