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Couple things that bothered me:

1) The two-year fight where they neither met nor spoke with each other. Is this even remotely possible considering how close they are?

2) They kiss and make up after the fake visit to the hospital, but when we flash-forward to the future and they bump into each other in the dorm hallway, it's pretty clear that they haven't seen each other in years and years. Again, this just flunks the common sense test? What happened? Another fallout?

3) Kevin Bacon? Totally gratuitious and unnecessary.

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Well, I thought it was a really great ending to a good show, W&G has had its ups and downs, but this ending really did the show justice, though some things weren't needed, like Jack and Karen's song, and Kevin Bacon's cameo, but other than that, it was a pretty good send-off.

I liked how the writers went far into the future, not once, but twice, whereas most shows just have the main characters move away or fall in love, this finale did all that, but brought us back to the core idea of the show, good friends are valuable and timeless.

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Yeah, I had some issues with the finale. It just didn't make any sense that Will and Grace wouldn't talk for 20 years while they're raising their children, and then all of a sudden, their children are gone and they can be friends again. I felt like they were trying to say that it's impossible to have friends when you have a family. I find this so hard to believe, especially because of the closeness Will and Grace had; you don't just throw away friends for 20 years (birthday parties? lunch? vacation? anything?). It just doesn't make sense. I'm not one for "reality" in tv shows, but this seemed to be written merely to fulfill a plot and not in keeping with the characters.

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I think tonights fimal W&G was the worst show they ever did. It sucked big time..

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I used to love this show because the writing was great and Jack and Karen were fun and outrageous, but the last few seasons have been so melodramatic. I have nothing against sitcoms tackling drama. Roseanne did it extremely well (until the last season) while still being funny. But all of Grace's back and forth with Leo and her depression and her baby drama and Will's dad dying...none of it was funny.

And my biggest problem with the show is that Grace is so completely narcissistic and self-involved that I've never believed that Will (or anyone) would actually ever be friends with her. Which is a big stumbling point for a show that is supposed to be about friendship. (Nothing against Debra Messing--she's very funny. But Grace? I could do without her.)

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LOVED WILL AND GRACE. THE LAST EPISODE WAS GOOD. IT SHOWED WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND THE FUTURE. THEY WERE FRIENDS TO THE END. I'M GONNA MISS "JUST JACK".....GLAD THERE ARE RERUNS.

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To answer the question, "Can friends who are very close not talk for years, even decades?" The answer is yes. My mother and her best friend just drifted apart as they raised kids, who were all in different activities, and worked, and just went about their lives. Unfortunately, it took a death in my family to get them back in touch, but it did, and they've remained close ever since. It's entirely plausible.

As to what happened between the hospital and the dorm, there was a scene where both Will and Grace were talking to Vince and Leo, respectively, about how they always thought that destiny brought them together and would always keep them together, but they didn't feel that anymore. They seemed to sense that things were just different now and that their lives would be more separate.

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That last episode was horrible. How unfunny can one show get?

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I remember exactly when this show stopped being funny: the season before Leo and Grace got together. Will and Grace decicde to have a baby together, but true to form Grace dumps Will so she can be happy with her sexy Jewish doctor. Adding Leo to the cast was a disaster, especially when they decided to break them up because of an affair. Then Debra Messing had to be gone from the show her her real-life pregnancy. And finally, the writers just seemed unable to write anything new, depending too much on guest stars to liven things up. I really used to like this show, but stopped watching last season. I only watched this one, which wasn't all that funny, because it was the last. This was the time for the show to end. The finale wasn't great, but the writers did their best to tie it all up and have some pay-off for the fans.

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I appreciate W&G for what it is. From now on any comedy (or maybe even drama) with a lead gay character will be compared to W&G. That being said, it's a bummer that the finale was last night and not 3 years ago.

I still believe the first few seasons were a documentary about my best friend and me.

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Though I don't think it was a perfect show, it did try to give a sense of closure to the show and characters.

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I hate to admit this, but I only was the very very end.
(LIfe, work, kids). Can someone fill me in on what happened earlier? Did they show grace have the baby?
when did will have a baby or didnt you know till they were at college? Help me!
thanks! = )

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I was moved by the duet between Jack and Karen. I loved how the show focused on the loyalty between the two. Now about Jack pimping himself, well, I think that was again, the writer's way of showing Jacks loyalty to Karen.

The relationship between Will & Grace left me feeling bitter. The fact that Grace went with "the love of her life," (a man who betrayed her) over a dear friend who was loyal and supportive throughout was not much of a stretch. It was more of a disappointment. It left me believing that Grace was never much of a friend. It may be hard to watch past episodes knowing that Grace is going to be such a weak bitch in the end.

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I really, really loved it. I thought that it was heartwarming, and funny. It's true that sometimes when people get married, they get distant, and it could have happened between those two. They had never really had serious relationships at the same time before. I love them so much. Everything was extremely satisfying and it was done with a grace and elegance that touched the heart.

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I was disappointed. It didn't ring true to who Will and Grace have been through the years. Jack and Karen followed normal form and were entertaining. Will and Grace, while living up to their talent and delivery expertise, just lacked the punch of an ending I was expecting.

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I was recapping the episode for my boss today over lunch and she and I agreed that, yes, it is way too easy for even the best of friends to drift apart or just stop talking suddenly. I'm not sure it was _totally_ in step with what we've come to expect from W & G, but it rang true in general.

The Jack and Karen subplot was standard J & K, silly fun that, if examined closely at all, makes no sense (and is probably more offensive than funny). I wondered what the duet was for, but it was great - I kinda figured the folks involved wanted to remind everyone that Mullaly (sp?) is an accomplished singer (and that Karen's voice is totally put-on). I thought perhaps the episode was named "Unforgetttable", but that wasn't the case.

As for having Kevin Bacon show up? Sure, why not? It has almost become a trademark of the show to have gimmicky guest stars pop up in random places, so it only makes sense for there to be one in the finale.

I did think the flash-forwards seemed like an "AbFab" ripoff at first (especially the dream sequence), but it is very cool if they were (more of an homage, I'd say).

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did anyone think grace's dream was hystercial? i thought the icicng on the cake was butch rosario being with karen. that ruled. that's all. ;)

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First of all, the finale dismissed their friendship in one fell swoop. They live in the same city, never talk, never see each other for 20 years...it's as if the whole series was them using each other while waiting for their supposed real lives...I hated it.
Second, I'm sorry the writer didn't get Jack and Karen's song and their "nice" voices. It was artful and the perfect ending for these two over-the-top characters. If you had watched the show more, maybe that would make more sense to you. Listen to the words, look at their faces. It was poignant in more ways than one. This was the best part of the finale. They have gorgeous voices, by the way. Just breathtaking.
Third, Grace takes the philandering Leo back. Give me a break. As much as I love Harry, they should've gone another way. The entrance of Leo was the ruination of anything funny about the characters Will and Grace. You can't expect an audience who tunes in for hilarious Jack and Karen slapstick to enjoy Will and Grace fighting all the time. This isn't reality. It's television. The writers ran out of creativity and imagination.

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I have to agree with many that the episode was a disappointment. I have watched W and G off and on for a couple of years, and though the first time I watched it, Karen's high voice and W and G's exaggerated drama over trivialities kind of alienated me, the show really grew on me and it was often VERY funny--one of the most cleverly campy shows on TV, sending up all kinds of cliches and stereotypes while showing the real human beings in the characters. But that last episode... the initial dream was pretty funny, but after that it got really plodding and dull, with needless drama replacing the humor of typical episodes. Why is it that the final wrap-up episode is often so incredibly out of character for the show as a whole? Disappointing....

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I am soooo disappointed in the W&G finale. I don't think I'll ever enjoy the reruns (that I watch every chance I get) the same. Knowing that W&G's special bond is so easily tossed aside. First they don't speak for 2 years, meet up, and then another 16? That's all I could think when I watched a rerun last night. Their friendship is indispensable! 2 stars. Oh, how I will miss "Jackie" and Kare!

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