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i can't wait for next time we will get some jate.
it is kate and jack that get trapped in the trap.
and did you see she told him she was sorry for kissing him.

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It's always odd to read a post about a show and then realize you haven't seen it yet. You East Cost bloggers and your fancy-pants Eastern Standard Time! It's like you're blogging in the future.

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I saw this before. Only last time, it was a movie, and it was called 'The Matrix'.

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Did anyone else in Ontario see this episode? CTV, who usually shows it was showing American Idol for some reason tonight. But so was Fox and Global. So then CTV switches to Lost 20 minutes into the show, then switches back to American Idol after 8 minutes. Plus, we don't get to download TV shows off iTunes in Canada yet. Looks like i'm bit-torrenting that one.

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I don't know wtf you are talking about, this was by far one of the better episodes of all of Lost. Sure last weeks was probably a step above it, but this one was great too. Yeah, we all saw that Dave was an imaginary 'friend' from a mile away, no big deal there, but maybe I guess for those of us who normally aren't reading up on theories, the whole Libby in the mental hospital was a real mindf*** for me.

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7/10 ... could have been a better episode!

anyway .. did you watch the episode promo for next week?
what is locke doing?

previews:
http://www.dharmasecrets.com/forum/index.php?topic=2545.0

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I think CTV is airing Lost now at 7pm because they also have American Idol. I like watching it on ABC better anyways, I hate how if a Canadian and American channel are airing the same show and I want to watch it on the American channel, the Cdn channel over rides it, if I wanted to watch i on the dn channel, then I'd turn to it.

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Are you high? This episode was awesome. I mean, yeah, Dave was obviously imaginary. People don't snap polaroids in TV shows for no reason. But the idea that the entire show is all in Hurley's head is so intriguing. I mean, it's so St. Elsewhere it can't possibly be true, but at the same time, it's a thousand times more plausible than that everything is actually happening.

But more importantly, there were really great character moments: Hurley confronting his accident, Hurley kicking the crap out of Sawyer, Locke being told "the button" is for chumps, etc. If you're just looking for revelations about the show's big mystery then lots of good episodes will seem like let downs. But if you dig the characters and the way the show explores them, episodes like this are real gems.

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I agree with Mark and I don't even use the word 'awesome' much - but this episode was exactly that - the Sawyer- Hurley fight, the revelation of the accident and Hurley's condition following the accident - the theme of doubt and uncertainty while Eko is building a church (with Charlie's assistance), Henry playing with Locke's mind again, Ana Lucia saving Henry from being shot by Sayid and Libby pulling Hurley back from the brink - wow!

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The Hurley part of the episode was filler, but the two "Henry" scenes totally made the episode worth while. Sayid busting Henry in another lie was great and they finally confirmed that "Henry" is an Other. I believed every word "Henry" told Locke. The hatch is a joke. It is a psyche experiment. They said in the orientation film that Dharma studies psychology and parapsychology. He also said God can't see the island any better than the rest of the world which might incidate the island is perhaps cloaked maybe by the magnetic phenomina. "Henry" also referred to a "he" that is going to kill him. When Anna Lucia asked if it is the man in the beard, he said that he is no one. We know from the Claire medical hatch episode that Ethan and "Mr Friendly - bearded redneck guy with a fake beard" also mentioned an unknown person in charge, so I would assume "Henry" is referring to the unknown person in charge and not "Mr Friendly." Next week looks like it should be a great episode. "Henry" mentioned in the preview that they would never give up Walt, but according to the producers the Walt/Michael story is supposed to be resolved before the end of this season.

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I kind of hoped Hurley would've pushed Dave off the cliff, saying "I've seen 'Vanilla Sky' and it sucked THEN too!!!"

But seriously, "Abre Los Ojos" was better.

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I bet by the end of this season the Others kill Walt because he has psychic abilities that can expose them and they trade "Henry" for Michael.

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When we (and a lot of other people) compared Lost to Twin Peaks, the producers of Lost gave us a "backwards talking dwarf" a la Twin Peaks (Walt talking backwards). We suggested that everything on Lost was a hallucination of Matthew Fox' character. Now, the producers of Lost give us everything on Lost being an hallucination of Hurley. See "Lost, Brazil and Jacob's Ladder" http://www.tempcity.com/bitchless/index.php?showtopic=608

I think the producers of Lost are throwing up a trial balloon to see how it flies, i.e., to see if the audience is willing to accept that the people on Lost are "not real, or at the very least, not really on an Island".

For me, this episode of Lost proves beyond any doubt that the producers of Lost "have no endgame", they have no clue what the fahk they are doing nor how they can possibly pull all of the sheat they have presented together so that it makes any sense. Lost has officially gone Twin Peaks, and it "jumped the shark" to get there.

The only thing We have suggested that the producers of Lost have not yet thrown out is the "Sybil Theory". We suggested, a la Sally Fields in Sybil, that all of the characters on Lost are splits in Matthew Fox' personality. At the end of Sybil, all of the characters were presented to Sybil as real live people by her psychologist and Sybil re-integrated the characters back into her true personality.

As we have suggested many times, the hatch and the system of having to type in a code every XXX minutes seems to clearly be a representation of a person floating in an isolation tank. The purpose of typing in a code XXX minutes is to demonstrate that the person in the tank is okay and not hallucinating. Whent he person in the tank fails to signal that he is okay (by typing in the code), the isolation tank is opened because the person inside is "in trouble" and hallucinating.

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Good episode but I have to agree with a few of the others leaving comments. Sayid and Anna Lucia clearly seemed to be doing the good cop/bad cop routine. The interrogation scene was outstandingand it looked like the wanna be Henry would have given some info up to Anna Lucia. That would have been the place to throw out a rollar coaster teaser for the next episode. On another note, I'm sure everyone caught the "23" on the deck build for "8" remark in Hurley therapy with 8 and 23 being two of the numbers.

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Marion, the producers have stated from day one that they have, and have always had, an endgame in mind. Sorry.

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I think this was a great episode!! Last week I was convinced the whole island and its folks were a huge experiment. Now, I'm convinced the whole thing is in Hurley's head!!! It's the only thing that makes sense. It's all about food and the numbers- all Hurley's issues. Hurley is the only character where the numbers have turned up in his "real" life-pre island, and on the island. The whole thing is in Hurley's mind-including Libby, who was a patient at the hospital with him!!! Dave,(his subconscious), had it right when he explained it to Hurley just before he jumped off the cliff!!

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Marion - I think the complete opposite about this episode. I think that the producers would never reveal that the Island is all in someone's head now that they have set up Hurley's hallucinations. I think they did it to prove that the "in someone's head" theory is definitely out.

I thought this episode was OK on its own but it just seemed bland compared to last week's incredible episode. I would have liked to see more about Locke and Henry and I was sort of confused why Jack, Kate, Sayid and Anna just left the food drop unattended.

Also, are we supposed to assume that the characters tell each other the things they find on the island? Have Kate and Claire told anyone about the French woman and the medical hatch? Has Locke mentioned the black light map? It is very strange to me that they seem to keep all their information private.

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This show is great...and I mean REALLY great. I just don't get the people who are so impatient to have everything revealed to them now...definately a product of the MTV generation... shot attention span theater I guess.

I love that this show gives you twists an turns, and slowly develops the characters and plot. I love that every week you could come up with a completely plausible "theory" only to have it ripped away in the next scene. This is great story telling IMO.

As for this show... I loved it! I thought the hatch stuff with "Henry" was fascinating and ran parallel to a theme I'm seeing (not only with Hurley) but many others.

Have you noticed that the island in the begininng seemed to give the castaways something back that they missed...for example:

Locke -his legs
Hurley -his sanity
Charlie -his sobriety (in the drug sense)
Micheal -his son
Sayid -his torture-free days
Sun -her husband, etc etc

but now seems to be taking these things back from them...hmmm very interesting!

It might be intereting to see who is the next to "lose" what the island has given them in the short-term. Its just a trend I happened to see with the show last night.

I don't necessarily think the happenings on the show are all in Hurley (or Libby's) mind for that matter...but introducing the doubt is what makes this show so good. Now it will always be in the back of my mind.

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All of the people on the island had some mental hardship in life before the flight. What if this is all a big therpy session they decided to participate in. They are all hypnotized or something, so all have seperate points of view about what is happening. They are suggested a story by the therapists when they 1st go under, and are now working through it. This cutting edge treatment could be avaiable only in Aust., which is the one place on earth they were all connected, where the flight originated.

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A Typical Lost: Season 2 episode.
75% Backstory, 25% Progress..

For this show to last past this year, they really need to rethink the %'s and give us more progression. The Hurley backstory was entertaining, but after the big ending to last week, it stunk of the "who gives a crap" relm.

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