I couldn't resist posting this extremely geeky
question to all our Battlestar Galactica post readers. Reader Matt over on the Captain's Hand episode review
posed the following simple question: in a battle between Admiral Adama (of BSG) and Captain Picard (of Star Trek:
TNG), who would win?I have my own take on the question, after the jump, but of course I want to hear what you all have to say about it.
Now, if Matt was asking who would win in a hand-to-hand fight, I'd have to go with Picard. Adama is recovering from
multiple gunshots to the chest, at point-blank range. A couple of chops to Adama's midsection, and he'd crumple to the
floor. Also, Adama, at 5'9", is just a little shorter than Picard, at 5'10", so he doesn't even have that
advantage. I'm not sure Adama even has a regular workout regimen, whereas Picard can be found in the Holodeck from time
to time, maybe doing some jogging.
How about a battle between the Galactica and the Enterprise? Again, I'd
have to go with Enterprise here, though only slightly. While the Galactica can take on several nuclear detonations,
they're no match for the Enterprise's active shields. Also, the Enterprise's near-instant phaser shots would hit
Galactica multiple times before it had a chance to prepare. The Galactica's shots are slow and telegraphed -- much
easier to maneuver away from, at least for the Enterprise. However, Galactica does has its Vipers, which could easily
chop away at the Enterprise's shields from multiple locations, and what's the Enterprise going to send after the
vipers? An away-team craft? Please.
OK, I've taken my geek hat off. Time for you to put yours on and tell me
who you think would win such a battle, and why.















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
2-25-2008 @ 9:46AM
vulcan1701 said...
i'm a fan of both and and i've asked myself this very questioned before and i've think that the galaxy class starship enterprise is more then a match from the battlestar that we all love. i'm sorry to say but its true, the enterprise could sit outside the galactica's weapons range and just simply blast it with its phasers. the enterprise could shoot down the raptors while they were still inside the launch pods or if the enterprise didn't want an all out fight then drop out of warp 40,000 km away beam over a few antimatter bombs or photon torpedoes and warp away and watch the bang on the sensors.
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2-21-2006 @ 10:04AM
Raj said...
i'd give it to galactica, that thing could take a beating...but is this the galactica fleet or just the capital ships?
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2-21-2006 @ 10:32AM
Eric J said...
Galactica (and even Pegasus) are much lower tech than Enterprise, so it's not a fair fight. E's sheilds could easily handle a nuke, while Battlestars have no apparent energy-weapon defenses.
But give them similar ships, and my money's on Adama. He's used to fighting for survival. Picard's more likely to, even subconsciously, hold back because he has to fight "fair."
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2-21-2006 @ 10:53AM
elf said...
I can't see the vipers having any effect on the Enterprise at all. They shoot tiny little missiles that would likely have little or no effect on the Enterprise's shields.
Plus consider that the Enterprise seems to be far more maneuverable than Galactica and can make the jump to warp instantaneously while Galactica has to process complex parameters before they can use their FTL.
So all Enterprise has to do is attack, warp away, warp back, attack again before Galatica and the vipers can get their bearings and repeat until Galactica is defeated. Oh yeah, Galactica couldn't effectively run away from Enterprise either since their scanners seem to be able to detect practically anything even from several star systems away.
Is that too geeky?
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2-21-2006 @ 11:06AM
LC said...
Do the vipers even fire energy weapons? It sounds like they are firing ammunition rounds when they fire on the Cylons, but I could be wrong. If they are, then they won't ba able to do much to the Enterprise.
I also think the Enterprises Photon Torpedoes yield a far greater punch then the nukes the Galactica are used to being hit with.
Even Tactically, the Enterprise managed to hold back the Borg on several occasions, so I don't think this would be a fair fight at all.
A better matchup would be Archer's Enterprise vs the Galactica. While Archer's ship has a polarized hull to absorb damage, the Galactica can chip away at it. Then again, the Enterprise has beaming tech and can pretty much beam assault teams or nukes straight inside once they punch a hole in the shields.
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2-21-2006 @ 11:09AM
Tucker said...
Galactica... If she was getting beat too badly, they'd just have the Commander go belowdecks on Pegasus to turn a knob so they could warp in and lend a hand. :P
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2-21-2006 @ 11:20AM
Matt said...
Ok, since I posed the question... let me chime in. At first I thought the Enterprise E was a shoe-in... but it would boil down to one thing... could a battlestar's defensive flak destroy a photon torpedo? The exterior could handle many phaser blasts, but the torpedos would be it's undoing if it could not defend against them. Also, the Enterprise has 800 crew, the Galactica has over 2,000, so there is a definate size advantage. Hmmm....
Picard vs. Adamma in a fight? Adamma beat a cylon to death with a flashlight! Hmmm.....
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2-21-2006 @ 11:24AM
k said...
Captain Picard hands down. Wait what about Captain Kirk!?!!?
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2-21-2006 @ 11:30AM
Emily said...
The Enterprise has maneuverability and superior weapons on her side but BSG has size and numbers. I believe a steady pounding would bring down the Enterprise's shields. How many times have we heard "one more hit and the shields are gone, Captain."
The men commanding would also play an important factor. Like Eric said, Picard would do the ethical thing. I feel Adamma would do whatever it takes to prevent the complete annilhilation of the human race.
I believe a shock and awe attack with full Viper and Raptor support could overtake the Enterprise, on a good day.
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2-21-2006 @ 11:46AM
Morkwa said...
I don't think it is so cut and dry. I believe Adama has more tactical savvy and thinks outside of conventional strategy more than Picard. I agree with the above post-er as well that fighting for survival makes one tenacious and crafty. However, the Enterprise's shields tip the scales heavily. And I cannot help but wonder if the phasers wouldn't slice Galactica's hull like butter. Could a Viper not shoot a well-placed nuke near the warp core?
In a hand-to-hand brawl, remember Adama boxes! (Resurrection Ship, Pt 1, opening sequence, I believe? He's training with Lee). Though having been shot also affects his constitution greatly as well.
This is aweesome geek fodder. Fun to visiualize!
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2-21-2006 @ 12:05PM
DLP said...
I agree with #2. Comparing Enterprise vs. Galactica is like comparing a tank to a chariot. Their time periods don't match.
A better comparison would be to compare the Enterprise NX-01 (yes, Scott Bacula's ship) to the Galactica. Neither use shields and rely on hull plating for defense. Neither have phase cannons (the NX-01 didn't when the series started anyway). The most advanced piece of "future" technology on both ships is the method of propulsion (FTL and Warp 5).
But this still isn't a fair fight. A battleship vs. a long range scout cruiser is a no-brainer too. Galactica would rip the NX-01 a new one every time (like it did in the ratings when they were occasionally head-to-head).
Kirk's original NC-1701 vs. the Galactica would be a much more interesting match up.
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2-21-2006 @ 12:17PM
BJL said...
I'm more curious who would win in a fight between the Cylons and the Borg...
Who wins the fight for my viewing time? Galactica - hands down.
If Galactica and the fleet 'jumped' away before Enterprise got amongst them, the Enterprise might never catch up. It seems the Galactica's hyperdrive works differently than the Federation's... In theory the Galactica might be able to jump in close, launch some nukes and jump out before fired upon. I guess I just want Galactica to win...
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2-21-2006 @ 1:19PM
Emily said...
You know Keith, this coversation could also lead into a discussion on the similarities and differences between ST and BSG personnel like: Dee vs. Uhura; Tigh vs. Spock; and the best would be a verbal debate between Data and Six on the "worthiness" of the human race.
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2-21-2006 @ 2:54PM
ScottS said...
Two words:
Picard Maneuver!
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2-22-2006 @ 3:03AM
Brent McKee said...
Galactica is a technological anachronism - FTL drives but only projectile type weapons. They fire missiles and it's been mentioned that Galactica only had two nukes and one of those was used for Baltar's Cylon detector. In fact in the pilot they mentioned "bullets" and I think they really meant bullets. Galactica has nothing that can touch any version of Enterprise outside of NX01. Eevn then there might be a problem - energy weapons give a ship range and NX01's size makes her way more maneuverable than Galactica. The Vipers even things out somewhat but even with missiles there's a limit to the amount of punishment they can hand out against an armoured target. Close fight.
Adama holds his own against Picard, beats Archer, wouldn't fight Janeway, and gets in tough against Kirk and Sisko. Adama has the look of a guy who's been in more than a few fights, both formal and in bars, and likes the rough and tumble.
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2-22-2006 @ 8:28AM
rmorton said...
Galactica all the way...
In the the Original Series, Kirks Enterprise lost shields after a Nuclear Warhead was fired at enterprise, I also believe that it did some damage to other systems also.
I think that the same thing would happen to Picard's Enterprise D or E if Galactica Jumped in, fired a nuke, and then sent in the vipers to try to finish the job. No doubt that BSG would have to get the first shot in though.
We all know that Galactica would not be the causo of the destruction of the Enterprise...
Picard would use the Self Destruct Sequence to do that...How many times have they tried that???
We all know that if the
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2-22-2006 @ 12:48PM
Mark said...
Most definitely the Enterprise. All Picard has to do is beam a couple torpedoes into the bridge and engine room and BSG is gone.
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12-29-2007 @ 3:12AM
WTR said...
The problem with 'Beam torpedo into ship during combat' is, if it can be done then why hasn't it been done in the past?
Also recall that in Star Trek, that certain materiasl and certain thicknesses of materials are like kryptonite to transporters, and the Galactica is nothing of not well armoured.
Yes, the shields would add an advantage, but in Trek there is an overreliance on shields. Once those go down, the ships are piss-poor armoured (save for a few exceptions like the Defiant).
Also, the shields like any protection only take so much armour. The advantage of fighters is they can cover more angles than just one big target like the Galactica.
The best bet, would be to wear down the shields, or force the Eneterprise to focus it's shields on one direction whilst the fighters pepper the areas with less coverage. The phasers aren't exactly great for CIWS, they're designed for ship-to-ship, not anti-fighter weapons.
2-22-2006 @ 11:10PM
Alex S said...
Galactica on enterprise-e i think would be closer than you think.
Galactica has 3 massive energy batteries forward of the ship (as does pegasus... see the captains hand) in adition do 24 energy/projectile based railguns + 3 nukes (initialy 5 after rearming at ragnar - baltars one and -1 from the baseship over kobol)
Galactica's point defence batteries could handle photon warheads.
Assuming Adama ftl'd and snuck up on enterprise. and hit the shields hard with the forward batteries and railguns. the vipers could mop her up. as with most battles it comes down to tactics.
im sure if the enterprise got the jump on galactica she could slice her up, bulkhead by bulkhead
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2-24-2006 @ 11:24PM
Portheus said...
For me Galactica, scrappy,hard,and i'm betin a heck of alot more mean when it comes down to the bottom line
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